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  1. #1
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    Are baseball players overpaid?

    Saw this on MLBTR and it generated a lot of debate.

    Do you think baseball players are overpaid?


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    No, and yes, and maybe. Mostly, players are paid what teams (as well as arbiters) decide they are worth. As has been mentioned in other discussions, often young players are under paid while older players seem to be overpaid based on previous performance.
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    Overpaid to the rest of society? Yeah.

    They’re underpaid compared to their employers though.

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    If you compared player salary to owner profits and the value of the team as an asset to those owners, no they aren't.

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    Nope. Ignore the “they get paid to play a kids’ game and whine a out millions” because they’re worth every penny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    Overpaid to the rest of society? Yeah.

    They’re underpaid compared to their employers though.
    do the players have the same risk as their so called employers when they sign said players to 150 plus million dollar contracts??? nope... so no they arent underpaid compared to their employers... they are overpaid compared to all other sports because they get 100 percent promised contracts on top of it being the least physical sport... they are overpaid but all sports players are.

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    Not at at all. Welcome to the free market. Bring in money? Get paid money. I'm a teacher, you know, one of those jobs everyone agrees is underpaid and even I think this. Sadly, they're underpaid if you consider how much their ownerships bring in on their hard work and what not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    do the players have the same risk as their so called employers when they sign said players to 150 plus million dollar contracts??? nope... so no they arent underpaid compared to their employers... they are overpaid compared to all other sports because they get 100 percent promised contracts on top of it being the least physical sport... they are overpaid but all sports players are.
    Under the same guise, what risk does a 19 year kid have getting paid on a minor league salary, and a $250K signing bonus from last year, versus an owner who has a billion dollars? The $150m contract is pay off for dealing with that for a while. That guy blows his arm out and the owner never thinks of him again or the $250K (which for a normal person still doesn't last very long in the long haul). And that's only if they're a somewhat higher pick. 9th and 10th round picks sign for way less then that.

    The $150m player is the rare breed. And even then, they risk injury, potentially very serious injury, and have likely done so for a decade already. At that juncture, even if the owner accepts more risk, the player's earned it through his.
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    No, of course not.


    I do love how people in that comments section seem to believe that contracts are affecting their ticket prices.

    It's hard to believe how little business sense people have. Of course, probably teenagers posting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    Overpaid to the rest of society? Yeah.

    They’re underpaid compared to their employers though.
    The ROI for buying a team today is incredibly lackluster.

    I believe the aggregate ROI for a MLB team is between 4-6%.....in other words, worse than if you just put the money in the stock market and let it ride.

    Owners are investing to win and the enjoyment of owning a baseball team. While profits are necessary, they are largely secondary as motivations. You wouldn't invest $1B if you had it and only accept a $10-20M per year return. That's a stupid level of return on your money.....but, it just happened with the Marlins in baseball, and the Rockets in basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1908_Cubs View Post
    Under the same guise, what risk does a 19 year kid have getting paid on a minor league salary, and a $250K signing bonus from last year, versus an owner who has a billion dollars? The $150m contract is pay off for dealing with that for a while. That guy blows his arm out and the owner never thinks of him again or the $250K (which for a normal person still doesn't last very long in the long haul). And that's only if they're a somewhat higher pick. 9th and 10th round picks sign for way less then that.

    The $150m player is the rare breed. And even then, they risk injury, potentially very serious injury, and have likely done so for a decade already. At that juncture, even if the owner accepts more risk, the player's earned it through his.
    Owners certainly carry plenty of and significant risk. Plenty of them see years of 7-8 figure loses.

    Young minor league players also carry plenty of risk. It's a risk to pursue this sort of a career in the minor leagues. And because the demand is so low down there once you are under commitment, the pay isn't going to be great unless previously negotiated.

    I wish that minor leaguers would get protected by the CBA, and their base pays just be around $60K a year or so, and take that from the top. Of course, that isn't insignificant, that could be a $50M boom to player payrolls, and would require significant concessions.

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    What if we went to pay for play. The players get a certain % of gross revenue for the league. Their performance determines their pay. Calculations to be made after each year determining the value of performance that year. There is a base salary everyone gets. Players are then stuck with the team they are drafted on... After 8 years they have the right to refuse any trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1908_Cubs View Post
    Sadly, they're underpaid if you consider how much their ownerships bring in on their hard work and what not.
    So sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    do the players have the same risk as their so called employers when they sign said players to 150 plus million dollar contracts??? nope... so no they arent underpaid compared to their employers... they are overpaid compared to all other sports because they get 100 percent promised contracts on top of it being the least physical sport... they are overpaid but all sports players are.
    NBA players make more now... much more. Guys are getting paid $40 mil per year in the NBA these days. It's crazy.
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    Wow, you just won't let this go will you? I'd be more than happy to provide the numbers again if you'd like. The fact is that Marmol in his best season, put up one of the greatest performances by a reliever in the history of baseball. Better than Rivera? Youre damn right. You can't deny this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    So sad
    I'm not crying rivers. But truly, the guys who are out there hurting themselves and doing the work should probably be making more than under 50% of the total revenue brought in by the sport. 30 guys are reaping over 1/2 of the entire pot, but the hundreds of players who go out there and do the work, make ~44%.
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