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  1. #61
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    Donít follow other teams enough to how well Pettine did.

    Canít get worse than Capers. Iím excited.


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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRNMN View Post
    I would argue very little most team draft structure involve the Owner, GM, HC, and scouts with some slight input from a few other areas. As for the Jacksonville thing he would have had more input there so Jacksonville may be more telling interms of his "talent eye." However, he could have been vetoed as the GM usually has the final say. There's two sides to that coin though, Bradley's defenses may have not panned out in Jacksonville, but few of those players ended up being solid picks and a good part of this years top ranked Jacksonville defense.
    Actually Jacksonvilles defense is mostly through Free Agency and a couple can't miss draft prospects from the 2016 draft in Ramsey and Jack.

    He did make a nice pick in Ngakoue though. He has panned out really well opposite Campbell.

  3. #63
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    Not much to garner from Pettine other than the fact that he served under Rex which could be pretty good. His drafts with Cleveland were pretty much miss but you are pretty handcuffed there absent a quarterback and the owner wanting Johnny Manziel.

    When he was DC in New York it looks like a lot of trades and Free Agency built their defense.

  4. #64
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    I think in just about any case, itís hard I give the coach too much credit or blame for anything draft related. Some of the more veteran guys are likely involved, but beyond that, first time head coaches like pettine and Bradley probably had little to do with their teams respective drafts. They probably have some input, and can describe the types of players they want. But they likely arenít saying we are taking player X over player Y too often.

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    I think in just about any case, itís hard I give the coach too much credit or blame for anything draft related. Some of the more veteran guys are likely involved, but beyond that, first time head coaches like pettine and Bradley probably had little to do with their teams respective drafts. They probably have some input, and can describe the types of players they want. But they likely arenít saying we are taking player X over player Y too often.
    For sure. Just trying to read the room. We got a wild card GM, 2 new coordinators, and a coach and quarterback who apparently want more done. On top of that we lost most of our scouting skeleton. Anything could happen here. Or nothing.

  6. #66
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    According to Tom Silverstein Frank Cignetti is the new Packers QB coach

    RIP Gene Wilder

  7. #67
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    Whitt was retained and promoted to defensive passing game coordinator, which is essentially assistant defensive coordinator. It sounds like he will not be directly coaching CBs anymore; as heíll be more of a big picture guy.

  8. #68
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    There is a lot of hate around the internet for Joe Whitt because of our cornerback situation but he has done some good things. The work he did with Tramon and Shields got us #1 CBs out of UDFAs. A bunch of the rookie corners have looked good their first season as well. Hopefully moving on from Capers scheme really helps out the rest of the CBs we still have.

  9. #69
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    If anyone is looking for a good read on pettine, google ďaccidental coach of the Cleveland BrownsĒ it gives a great intro to pettine when he was hired as the browns coach. Shows his mindset as a coach.

    Iím pretty excited. Seems like a guy players can get behind. Also seems like a guy whoís not so set in his ways heís unwilling to adapt. Sounds like he has his principles, but takes input from other coaches and encourages coaches and players to ask questions like why are we doing this or that. He could be a very nice coordinator.

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