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    Proposal: Change to Free Agency

    This is quite good.

    Joel Sherman of the New York Post opines....Of the 14 current players on free agent deals with a $20MM average annual value and worth more than $100MM in total, only Max Scherzer and Jon Lester seem like clear wins for their teams, while the other 12 players range from questionable investments to outright busts.

    Sherman proposes that players should be allowed to become free agents after just four years of service time, arguing that the current free agent setup is “a flawed system” that doesn’t properly compensate players through their prime years.

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    Players get more money earlier. Owners would ask for something back from MLBPA. What would they ask for?
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    I'd ask for a salary cap and the ability to have a franchise tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz:32071012
    I'd ask for a salary cap and the ability to have a franchise tag.
    Don't we have a de facto salary cap in place now with the luxury tax penalties and such already?

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    What the owners would ask for is what the NBA finally did on guaranteed deals... shortened the max years...

    Giving a baseball player a 10 year deal is asinine

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    Salary caps are dumb. Have a salary floor. Make the rays and As spend more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mell413 View Post
    Don't we have a de facto salary cap in place now with the luxury tax penalties and such already?
    Make it a hard cap, with a corresponding cap floor, and with the franchise tag, teams still have the ability, no matter what level, to keep their best player, at least for a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan54 View Post
    Salary caps are dumb. Have a salary floor. Make the rays and As spend more
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    This is quite good.



    Players get more money earlier. Owners would ask for something back from MLBPA. What would they ask for?
    They would demand a salary cap, which is an absolute no.

    The collective bargaining agreement that MM gave up to avoid the player strike and cap was 6 years of service time. I can't imagine that ever being changed, or a cap system ever coming to the MLB because it would be an automatic strike, and for good reason.


    4 years is way too little of time to get proper value out of young assets.

    Arenado and Trout are the rare guys that would be free agents and they would be of high value.


    You would see so many players change teams, and it would just be ugly. And avoiding a cap is incredibly important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    They would demand a salary cap, which is an absolute no.

    The collective bargaining agreement that MM gave up to avoid the player strike and cap was 6 years of service time. I can't imagine that ever being changed, or a cap system ever coming to the MLB because it would be an automatic strike, and for good reason.


    4 years is way too little of time to get proper value out of young assets.

    Arenado and Trout are the rare guys that would be free agents and they would be of high value.


    You would see so many players change teams, and it would just be ugly. And avoiding a cap is incredibly important.
    If there was a system to allow you to go over the cap for a player that had at least 3 mlb service years or 3 mlb minor league years with the same team, that would allow teams to go for over talent they developed or acquired early without penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan54 View Post
    Salary caps are dumb. Have a salary floor. Make the rays and As spend more
    so is favorable locationalized teams being able to spend 300 million... salary caps are not dumb... there should be a salary cap and floor.

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    teams like the dodgers/phillies/yankees/mets can pick up bad contracts or make bad deals because they know they can sustain such things by just taking on someone elses contracts or just spending more... How about having GMs all do their jobs on a fair playing field? Imagine if the As or Royals had the ability to throw out 150 million dollar pay roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    so is favorable locationalized teams being able to spend 300 million... salary caps are not dumb... there should be a salary cap and floor.
    Agreed......it seems that when these discussions about a cap come up, most of those in support of a cap are fans of small and mid market teams, while the ones who don't want a cap are the ones who root for teams who usually spend freely. A cap is needed for sure, or at the very least, some sort of franchise tag that could allow teams to keep their star players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    teams like the dodgers/phillies/yankees/mets can pick up bad contracts or make bad deals because they know they can sustain such things by just taking on someone elses contracts or just spending more... How about having GMs all do their jobs on a fair playing field? Imagine if the As or Royals had the ability to throw out 150 million dollar pay roll.
    They CAN, the owners just choose not to. Every single owner in baseball could absolutely afford $150M payroll every year if they were willing to spend. Yankees, Dodgers, etc who go over the tax pay money to all the other teams every year...free money to other teams, who should turn around and invest that money into their own teams.

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    The penalties for going over the luxury tax are so hard core, they act as a defacto Salary cap, I wouldn't be surprised to see every team bellow the 200 million dollar threshold this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    They CAN, the owners just choose not to. Every single owner in baseball could absolutely afford $150M payroll every year if they were willing to spend. Yankees, Dodgers, etc who go over the tax pay money to all the other teams every year...free money to other teams, who should turn around and invest that money into their own teams.

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    There's no way every team in baseball could go over 150 million dollars in payroll perennially. Sure, the owners have that type of money to spend but considering payroll is all revenue based, not every team would clear a profit with a payroll that high.

    IE the Marlins dumping salary to the Yankees when trading Stanton.

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