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    Browns hire John Dorsey as GM, yet another regime change

    Sashi Brown is out after a couple years, and likely Hue Jackson is following him out the door at the close of the year. Dorsey is a proven football guy, and maybe the Haslam family is finally willing to let someone work on their own in the football department and run the team.

    On the same day the Cleveland Browns fired executive vice president Sashi Brown, the team reached an agreement with former Kansas City Chiefs general manager John Dorsey to take over the same position.

    Dorsey will be introduced at a media conference on Friday, when he will be handed the reigns to one of the NFL's most historical but long-suffering franchises.

    "We are thrilled to have John Dorsey lead our football operations," team owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam said in a statement on Thursday. "John has been immersed in the NFL for 26 years, won two Super Bowls, built sustainable winning football teams and is highly respected for his football acumen. We know we have a critical and very positive opportunity ahead of us to profoundly impact the foundation of this football team. Bringing in someone of John Dorsey's caliber, his track record of success and his experience, significantly strengthens our opportunities to build a winning football team and that has been, and continues to be, what we want for our fans."

    With Dorsey as general manager in Kansas City from 2013 to 2016, the Chiefs recorded a 43-21 (.672) record, the fourth-highest winning percentage in the NFL during that span. Prior to that, he spent six seasons as a player with the Green Bay Packers and 21 years in the team's scouting department. He also spent the 1999 season working for the Seattle Seahawks.

    Cleveland will not hire another vice president, and Dorsey will be the new man in charge.

    "Football is what I know, it is what I love, it is what I have worked my whole career at and I thrive on every element that goes into building a winning football team," Dorsey said in a statement. "I have spent a majority of my football life with two franchises that also have storied history [sic], and I think I have a feel for the mentality of the fans in Cleveland and what it would mean to recreate the success this franchise once had. I also have quickly realized how passionate Jimmy and Dee are about bringing a winning team to the city and would have not taken the job if I didn't think the right ownership was in place. I am eager to work with [coach] Hue [Jackson], his staff and our personnel department and help bring us the success these fans so deserve."

    It is a move the Browns have been plotting for weeks, and with their interview cycle completed, they have struck an agreement with Dorsey, who is drawn to one of the NFL's iconic franchises the way he was when he worked for the Packers, who are Cleveland's opponent on Sunday.

    John Wooten, chairman of Fritz Pollard Alliance, said he was "deeply bothered" by the Browns' hiring process. The alliance works to improve coaching and front-office opportunities for minorities in the NFL.

    "I'll be talking to the league about it because it bothers me. It doesn't seem right. Why wouldn't you interview one of the recommended people?" Wooten told ESPN.

    Wooten, a former Browns player, thinks Dorsey is qualified, but he was not happy that the team did not interview other qualified monitory candidates.

    Dorsey is taking over a team that, despite being winless, is actually well-positioned for future years, as many NFL executives have noted recently.

    Dorsey inherits some of the riches that Brown helped to acquire, including six extra picks in April's NFL draft -- a first-round pick, two seconds, a fourth and a fifth.

    The Browns also have $59.25 million in cap space that they can roll over into next year, when they already are scheduled to have another $38.6 million of room, giving them almost $100 million in salary-cap space.

    "The 2018 draft and offseason is pivotal for our franchise; we need to ensure that we maximize our opportunity for success, with our picks, free agency and building our roster," Jimmy Haslam said in a statement on Thursday after his team fired Brown.

    According to league sources, Haslam considered this a timely opportunity to hire a new football boss, similar to a move the Packers once exercised when they hired Ron Wolf as general manager in late November 1991. Wolf considered it an advantage to get an early read on the Packers' roster and the coaching staff before he turned around a franchise that had grown irrelevant for more than 20 years. Wolf hired Dorsey to join his personnel staff and has been a mentor.


    Whereas Wolf decided to change coaches after the '91 season when he fired Lindy Infante and hired Mike Holmgren, Dorsey and Haslam discussed at length the idea of retaining Hue Jackson as the Cleveland coach, sources said. Dorsey and Haslam each were comfortable with going forward with Jackson, which will allow the Browns' new general manager to focus primarily on the team's personnel, the 2018 draft and the free agent market, the sources added.

    Indianapolis Colts general manager Chris Ballard, who worked under Dorsey with the Chiefs from 2013-2016, had effusive praise Thursday night for his former boss as a family man who also happens to be one of the NFL's top personnel evaluators.

    "John is an excellent evaluator and team builder," Ballard said. "He knows what it takes to win in this league and has a proven track record in Green Bay and Kansas City. He's going to embrace the city of Cleveland, Browns history and their fans. They will be very proud of the team that he puts together and I have no question he will build a consistent winner. They are very lucky to get him."

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    Browns doing Browns things. No way D'Arnold comes out if he hears whispers that the Browns draft him. Maybe the Giants get lucky and if he does come out, they can pull another Eli Manning where D'Arnold's dad or representation forces a trade to NY if Cleveland drafts him #1.

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    We've been on this carousel numerous times before. I'm completely numb to all of it at this point.

    Our biggest issue has been the draft so let's hope Dorsey can make something happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    We've been on this carousel numerous times before. I'm completely numb to all of it at this point.

    Our biggest issue has been the draft so let's hope Dorsey can make something happen.
    Dorsey is a solid GM. The Chiefs made a mistake letting him go IMO. I think he'll be good for the Browns. He stocked the Chiefs with talent, I can imagine what he'll do with all those high draft picks you all have this year. He's probably salivating... The only knock I've heard against him is he's a little weak on cap management, but we'll see.
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    Stupid decision. You knew the strategy when you hired this guy and then bailed early. Reminds me of Sam Hinkie
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino17 View Post
    Stupid decision. You knew the strategy when you hired this guy and then bailed early. Reminds me of Sam Hinkie
    Most reports have sashi Brown as the main guy not wanting Wentz, always trading back etc... He failed.

    Early reports say Hue Jackson will stay. But Dorsey will have say in that and prob already did. I don't know much about Dorsey but he's well respected around the league and did great things with the chiefs. Known as a good drafter. Something the Browns have struggled with since returning.

    Believe it or not the Browns are in a good spot right now. For GM's who love to build teams Cleveland is an ideal location. They have Some good young players to build with, About 100 million in cap lol, A lot of early draft picks including 2 in the top 10. Its important for them to land a QB. Rosen seems like the man. make other good picks and Attack Free agency. Josh Gordon hopefully stays out of trouble and honestly the browns could do some winning next season.

    Browns are in need of a leader and competitor at QB. The USC QB seems to lack both those things. So the Browns need to pass on him. Can't draft scared players.
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    Hopefully Dorsey trades for Alex Smith so that Denver can get a QB lol

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    Really good move as long as he has full control of the draft. We had some REALLY good drafts with him. His cap management wasn’t the best, but maybe he’s learned better.

    And yeah. Send that top 2nd rounder here for Smith please

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    Not a bad hire at all for the Browns. He’s great at evaluating talents, just sucks at managing the cap. He paid his “guys” like Kelce, Smith, Fisher, LDT, and Sorensen before paying guys like Charles, Houston, and Berry. It almighty cost them ChRles and Maclin.

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    What are the Browns doing? Hue Jackson should of been fired last season they could get the next 20 #1 picks and this guy still couldn't coach them to a .500 season record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgjohnson7851 View Post
    Hopefully Dorsey trades for Alex Smith so that Denver can get a QB lol
    Who is KC's backup QB? The only way KC trades him to Cleveland is if they ask for this yrs #1 pick
    or the Browns next yr first round pick (depending where they land).

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    Josh McDaniels goes to the Browns. Drafts Rosen or Darnold. Now that they have a football guy in the FO McDaniels may consider it. Especially if the price is right. They've built an OK roster with tons of early draft picks and just need a couple few more pieces. Especially QB.

    They have draft picks/cap space and will probably be willing to give him a fat 6 year contract. It seems like the Browns are tired of losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSF101 View Post
    Who is KC's backup QB? The only way KC trades him to Cleveland is if they ask for this yrs #1 pick
    or the Browns next yr first round pick (depending where they land).
    Patrick Mahomes. KC likely wants to move on from Smith after this year anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamburger:32029712
    Josh McDaniels goes to the Browns. Drafts Rosen or Darnold. Now that they have a football guy in the FO McDaniels may consider it. Especially if the price is right. They've built an OK roster with tons of early draft picks and just need a couple few more pieces. Especially QB.

    They have draft picks/cap space and will probably be willing to give him a fat 6 year contract. It seems like the Browns are tired of losing.
    They need more than just a few more pieces...

    Yeah they desperately need a good franchise qb to be serious competitors. They've got some really good young pieces already but still need quite a bit more before they're even thinking about the playoffs. Like you said though they have a bunch of good picks this year and the next few years to go with a ton of cap space.

    McDaniels has been a good coordinator but didn't have the most successful time as a HC. Idk if he will be the best candidate for the Browns. Nor do I know if he would even want to give up the job that I would assume has some real good job security for the next few years at the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    Most reports have sashi Brown as the main guy not wanting Wentz, always trading back etc... He failed.
    Its been 2 years, he certainly hasn't failed. Like I said, they knew exactly what they were singing up for when they hired him. If they were gonna bail after 2 years, they never should have hired him. This strategy works in every other sport, but no one in the NFL has the balls or brains to give it a chance. Like I said, Sam Hinkie 2.0
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