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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Win a couple rings without the aid of a 73 win team.

    So basically, He'll never surpass Kobe.
    Yeah, pretty much. He can still get there but not being 1 of 4 stars on an already stacked team that didn't need him to win. Without Kobe those Shaq or Gasol teams aren't winning a title. Without Durant, that Warrior team already won one and almost won another.

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    If we are going to **** on his ring should we **** on 3 of kobes getting it as 2nd fiddle to shaq? Unless you think Curry/Klay/Dray are gonna be top 5 players ever like Shaq... If durant wins 1 or 2 without this team then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Yeah, pretty much. He can still get there but not being 1 of 4 stars on an already stacked team that didn't need him to win. Without Kobe those Shaq or Gasol teams aren't winning a title. Without Durant, that Warrior team already won one and almost won another.
    Durant still did more in his run then kobe did in his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    If we are going to **** on his ring should we **** on 3 of kobes getting it as 2nd fiddle to shaq? Unless you think Curry/Klay/Dray are gonna be top 5 players ever like Shaq... If durant wins 1 or 2 without this team then what?
    Doesn't PSD do that already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Hah, bro they all said that about lebron. But what do they say now?
    Lebron joined Pierce and KG on the 73 win Celtics? Hmm, don't remember that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    If we are going to **** on his ring should we **** on 3 of kobes getting it as 2nd fiddle to shaq? Unless you think Curry/Klay/Dray are gonna be top 5 players ever like Shaq... If durant wins 1 or 2 without this team then what?
    Nope, Kobe and Shaq both won without each other. KD has yet to face any real adversity to get a ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Durant still did more in his run then kobe did in his.
    You take Durant off the warriors and they still get to the nba finals.. You take kobe off the lakers and they lose to Sacramento or San Antonio or Portland in the semis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    If we are going to **** on his ring should we **** on 3 of kobes getting it as 2nd fiddle to shaq? Unless you think Curry/Klay/Dray are gonna be top 5 players ever like Shaq... If durant wins 1 or 2 without this team then what?
    To be fair, Shaq had zero rings before Kobe. Warriors were going to be the favorite every year for the foreseeable future even before Durant.

    Plus Kobe proved he could get it done without Shaq later on. Best we got from Durant was a joke job against the Warriors before fleeing to join them.

    At no point could you remove Kobe from the equation and the Lakers still win. Warriors already won in '15 would have won in '16 if not for ret*ard Draymond, and I would have picked them last year Durant or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllBall View Post
    Lebron joined Pierce and KG on the 73 win Celtics? Hmm, don't remember that one.



    Nope, Kobe and Shaq both won without each other. KD has yet to face any real adversity to get a ring.
    No, remember in 2010 lebron joined the third best and a top 10 player and thought they'd win over 8 rings in miami, and everyone was like oh he can never reach kobe or jordan status cuz of that, and he then proceeded to absolutely beast for 4 years, kinda how kd did last year, and then its like yeah uhhh, kinda doesnt' matter, cuz he kinda just tore **** up.

    Remember that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    No, remember in 2010 lebron joined the third best and a top 10 player and thought they'd win over 8 rings in miami, and everyone was like oh he can never reach kobe or jordan status cuz of that, and he then proceeded to absolutely beast for 4 years, kinda how kd did last year, and then its like yeah uhhh, kinda doesnt' matter, cuz he kinda just tore **** up.

    Remember that one?
    Only because Wade instantly got old/hurt after 2012. Unless Curry, Klay and Draymond develop knees like Wade it's unlikely to happen.

    You basically had Bron, Bosh, hurt Wade and a crappy bench with one or 2 good role players. Not anywhere near the level of the GS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Only because Wade instantly got old/hurt after 2012. Unless Curry, Klay and Draymond develop knees like Wade it's unlikely to happen.

    You basically had Bron, Bosh, hurt Wade and a crappy bench with one or 2 good role players. Not anywhere near the level of the GS.
    don't beat around the bush, just say yea you remember it

    I like how you be tryina talk about that team like they scrubs, lmao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    don't beat around the bush, just say yea you remember it

    I like how you be tryina talk about that team like they scrubs, lmao!
    Far from scrubs. Just explaining the huge difference from 2012-2014 Wade and Bosh vs Curry, Klay and Draymond.

    They could more than hold their own without Durant. Remove Bron from that Heat team and it completely crumbles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Far from scrubs. Just explaining the huge difference from 2012-2014 Wade and Bosh vs Curry, Klay and Draymond.

    They could more than hold their own without Durant. Remove Bron from that Heat team and it completely crumbles.
    Sure, but that's not why no one could deny how great he is, his play on the court is why. His first year vs chicago and boston he started showing that. Clearly the best player on the court leading his team to the finals
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Sure, but that's not why no one could deny how great he is, his play on the court is why. His first year vs chicago and boston he started showing that. Clearly the best player on the court leading his team to the finals
    Nah I'm with him, its a huge difference that you can't just sure away. Trust me, everyone complaining wishes he settled for something closer to what LeBron did

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    No, remember in 2010 lebron joined the third best and a top 10 player and thought they'd win over 8 rings in miami, and everyone was like oh he can never reach kobe or jordan status cuz of that, and he then proceeded to absolutely beast for 4 years, kinda how kd did last year, and then its like yeah uhhh, kinda doesnt' matter, cuz he kinda just tore **** up.

    Remember that one?
    lol, that didn't change people's tune at all. Now, Lebron coming back from 3-1. THAT puts him in the legendary category. No adversity, no status.

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    Kobe didn't start to enter the Top 10 ever discussion until he won his rings sans Shaq. Durant won't enter Top 10 ever discussion until he wins rings sans Curry.

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