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  1. #1216
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    Anyone else think the ‘on ball’ thing is a bit overplayed?

    Simmons and Fultz both display traits that make them very good off the ball. They’re better on the ball, because they’re very good players and you want the ball in their hands. That doesn’t mean they can’t play off the ball or that they become significantly worse or less effective if they don’t have the ball all the time.

    I think that label applies to certain players, without question. But I wouldn’t say these guys can’t play off the ball. I think there’s plenty of time in the game to have all of these guys have the ball in their hands more than enough.

    Where I think having too many ‘on ball’ players is when they’re like Westbrook or Carmelo or Iverson, guys that need to take a bajillion shots a game or they aren’t happy or nearly as effective.

    But guys that are more facilitators as ‘on ball’ guys - Simmons, LeBron for example - I don’t think you can ever have too many of those guys on the court, so long as they can make open shots and create for themselves if necessary, which is where Markelle fits in to the equation.

  2. #1217
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyeaglesman View Post
    Anyone else think the ‘on ball’ thing is a bit overplayed?

    Simmons and Fultz both display traits that make them very good off the ball. They’re better on the ball, because they’re very good players and you want the ball in their hands. That doesn’t mean they can’t play off the ball or that they become significantly worse or less effective if they don’t have the ball all the time.

    I think that label applies to certain players, without question. But I wouldn’t say these guys can’t play off the ball. I think there’s plenty of time in the game to have all of these guys have the ball in their hands more than enough.

    Where I think having too many ‘on ball’ players is when they’re like Westbrook or Carmelo or Iverson, guys that need to take a bajillion shots a game or they aren’t happy or nearly as effective.

    But guys that are more facilitators as ‘on ball’ guys - Simmons, LeBron for example - I don’t think you can ever have too many of those guys on the court, so long as they can make open shots and create for themselves if necessary, which is where Markelle fits in to the equation.
    I think it does get overblown. But there’s a limit to how much ball there is to go around. And that’s directly related to how guys make shots. I don’t see bringing in lebron as a guy to get buckets off the ball and simmons can’t shoot. I also see their size as issues as two primary ballhandlers. Crowd the paint and cover shooters seems like an approach that could be employed easily. I don’t his addition beats boston’s Defense.

  3. #1218
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    Isn’t crowd the paint and cover shooters everyone’s defensive approach? Easier said then done.

    He is the best player in the game, I would take him in a heart beat.

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