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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by infernoscurse View Post
    my best arguments are:

    1. Don Sutton
    2. Gaylord Perry
    3. Rube Marquard
    4. Ted Lyons
    5. Clark Griffith
    6. Waite Hoyt
    7. Hoyt Wilhelm
    8. Herb Pennock
    9. Bruce Sutter
    10. Bert Blyleven

    The Prosecution rests your honor
    So you guys were constantly fighting for Blyleven to get in and now that he does I see someone uses him as if he is an example of the bar being lowered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crucis View Post
    Parity is about equality of opportunity, not equality of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    Mussina defensively seems to lose out based on the eye test. I remember as a Jays fan who saw him repeatedly I honestly never felt like damn we've got Mussina tomorrow. The numbers will eventually get him there though.

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    same as a Sox fan. There was one period in the 00's when he was a yankee i was like oh crap. but it was like a 2 year window. I never thought about Mussina as a HOFer or one of the best pitchers of that era stats say otherwise but i agree with you man. I never though of Mussina in that breath when he was pitching


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  3. #18
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    Moose had a great glove, but he could never get that perfect game.
    I rooted hard for him too!

  4. #19
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    All-stars are all-stars and not always HoFers. The HoF should be for elite all star caliber players. The bar is too low.
    Baseball Maverick: How Sandy Alderson Revolutionized Baseball and Revived the Mets
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  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    All-stars are all-stars and not always HoFers. The HoF should be for elite all star caliber players. The bar is too low.
    In baseball, the bar is higher than with any other sport.

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