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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie6986 View Post
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    Feel like I'm beating a dead horse but....

    Mike Pelfrey, Dillon Gee, Ollie Perez, Jon Niese, et al were all capable of pitching a strong 5-6 innings every so often. But you could never depend on them to do it start after start. They also had stretches -- just like Matz -- where they looked absoluitely brilliant.

    So far, Matz has done nothing to distinguish himself from any of those guys. He's got journeyman written all over him.
    Might as well thrown in Flexen with this group too, another 5-inning pitcher.

    Very unimpressive against a crappy team.
    Yeah. Matz isn't a heck of a lot better than Flexen, agreed.
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    When I think of Steven Matz I think of Ted Lilly. Always have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJNetsIsles View Post
    When I think of Steven Matz I think of Ted Lilly. Always have.
    Perhaps, with a bit of maturity.

    I'm not completely given up on him, but perhaps Frank Viola could turn him around.

    Right now, he's just a 5-inning guy.
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    Mets @ Phillies August 10th-13th

    These guys are all dying for a fresh start. A fresh perspective (coaching), and an athletic defense. With Degrom and Thor hopefully being healthy, as well as our best Reliever (Familia)...there will be less pressure on them.

    They will all be amped and ready to go in spring training. We should be able to find a 3, 4, and 5 out of Lugo, Matz, Wheeler, Harvey, and Gsellman.




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    I wonder if Matz is another guy where the arm injuries are catching up to him. He's a guy who used to touch 97 mph but now he's more consistently in that 93-94 mph range. I still think this is just a lost season for him. With some tweaking mechanically, I think he can get back to being a really solid SP. The issue is and always will be with him is health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ghee View Post
    These guys are all dying for a fresh start. A fresh perspective (coaching), and an athletic defense. With Degrom and Thor hopefully being healthy, as well as our best Reliever (Familia)...there will be less pressure on them.

    They will all be amped and ready to go in spring training. We should be able to find a 3, 4, and 5 out of Lugo, Matz, Wheeler, Harvey, and Gsellman.




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    This almost sounds like entering Spring 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie6986 View Post
    This almost sounds like entering Spring 2017.
    Similar...except Harvey/wheeler/Matz aren't gonna be as fresh off their injuries...they'll have a better defense...and they'll have their closer.

    With the amount of injury and underperformance in the beginning of the season...it's a recipe for disaster no matter who we have.



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