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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    I mean you could wait and hope someone becomes more desperate but equivalent for the Yankees for example is presumably Chance Adams and Clint Frazier. Are they giving that up for Quintana? Probably not.

    Given the White Sox timeline, they dont need immediate help at the major league level. Jimenez has a really nice ceiling. Getting a top 10 prospect and a top 100 prospect is never a bad return for a solid #2 SP.
    I didn't realize Quintana is a solid 2, I always figured he was a middle of the rotation lefty kinda guy...

    But I rarely watch anything but Mets games...


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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ghee View Post
    I didn't realize Quintana is a solid 2, I always figured he was a middle of the rotation lefty kinda guy...

    But I rarely watch anything but Mets games...


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    He's at least a solid #2.

    "there's no shines in my shinebox"

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ghee View Post
    I didn't realize Quintana is a solid 2, I always figured he was a middle of the rotation lefty kinda guy...

    But I rarely watch anything but Mets games...


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    He is 29th in the league in -ERA, and 22nd in -FIP....among the 205 qualifying starters since 2011.

    That's not middle of the rotation type pitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ghee View Post
    I didn't realize Quintana is a solid 2, I always figured he was a middle of the rotation lefty kinda guy...

    But I rarely watch anything but Mets games...


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    MLB Ranks 2014-2017(500IP MIN)

    ERA: 3.47(22nd)

    FIP: 3.31(16th)

    fWAR: 16.6(8th)

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    Cubs Acquire Quintana from White Sox for Eloy Jimenez, 3 other prospects

    Hey I'm not saying he ISNT...I'm saying I didn't know.

    Lol. Thanks for all the stats.

    (Can't remember the last time I watched a white sox game)


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  6. #51
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    This is a great article from Fangraphs showing just how good Jose Quintana is, and is SO underpaid. Kudos to Rick Hahn on signing pitchers like Q and Sale to great deals.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/cubs-...jose-quintana/


    Past Three Years
    Pitcher | Starts | IP/Start | WAR | K% | BB% | K-BB% | Strike% | IF/FB% | HR/FB% | Fastball (mph)
    Jose Quintana |96 | 6.3 | 13.9 | 22% | 6% | 16% | 64% | 11% | 9% | 91.8
    Jon Lester 97 | 6.3 | 13.4 | 25% | 6% | 19% | 64% | 10% | 11% | 91.8

    Over the past three years, Quintana and Lester have basically been the same guy. Lester has gotten a few more strikeouts, but heís also been in the National League, and Quintana has suppressed more home runs. By value, theyíve been virtually identical, and while Lester was born in 1984, Quintana was born in 1989. It stands to reason Quintana might have more left in the tank. And then thereís the money. This is where itís easy to get tripped up. Itís easy to forget about how player value is a function of both ability and contract commitment. The Cubs signed Lester as a free agent for six years and $155 million, with a seventh-year option.

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    Q with a magnificent Cubby debut

    7 IP 3H 12:0 KBB
    Last edited by WOwolfOL; 07-16-2017 at 03:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOwolfOL View Post
    Q with a magnificent Cubby debut

    7 IP 3H 12:0 KBB
    Not a bad debut at all, especially since his game in Baltimore earlier this year was a four run, five inning outing. Made our offense look completely inept.

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    Welcome to the good side Q.

    Carson, trust me, even if you turn out to be a really bad QB, BDawk4Prez will always defend you on PSD.

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