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    The left and the right are in an all-out outrage arms race

    After years on the defensive, conservatives are annexing some territory in America's troubling war of hurt feelings and faux outrage.

    The national censure of comedian Kathy Griffin was a rare victory for Republicans, who called her out for an ill-advised publicity stunt in which she snapped some photos of herself holding up a mock severed Donald Trump head. Griffin saw her live shows cancelled, sponsorships dropped and she was cut from her high-profile role co-hosting CNN's New Year's Eve special.

    A few weeks after that, right-wing activists made a splash by disrupting a New York production of Julius Caesar featuring the assassination of a character with an obvious likeness to President Trump.

    To a degree, this is fair play for conservatives, who for years have had their minor gaffes turned into media spectacles and in some cases, career-ending offences. But it is nonetheless a troubling development, with conservatives now joining the chorus of voices demanding that heads roll over "offensive" acts.

    Indeed, the Griffin and Julius Caesar episodes could have offered an opportunity for both liberals and conservatives to engage in some much-needed introspection, but instead, it seems to have only fuelled an increasingly vicious cycle of outrage politics.

    Outrage as currency

    Contrary to what some progressive pundits claim, the outrage over Griffin's stunt was not the result of "snowflake" Republican partisans. Rather, what grated conservatives was the naked hypocrisy of the photoshoot.

    Griffin has previously slammed the toxic rhetoric of Republicans such as Sarah Palin, who she falsely blamed for inspiring the Gabby Giffords shooting back in 2011. Yet, here was Griffin adopting that same toxic rhetoric against a Republican president.

    It is possible that some genuinely felt wounded by Griffin's stunt, but the outrage largely came off as contrived. Indeed, after years of watching how the currency of "offence" has delivered desired outcomes for progressives they once got a rodeo clown banned from a Missouri fair for wearing an Obama mask conservatives have no doubt recognized that faux offence-taking produces better results than complaints about left-wing hypocrisy.

    We saw this same contrived offence-taking in the controversy over the Shakespeare in the Park production of Julius Caesar.

    Conservatives might find the depiction of a Trump-like character being assassinated loathsome particularly in the aftermath the recent congressional baseball game shooting, where a radicalized Bernie Sanders supporter deliberately targeted Republicans but disrupting the performance is precisely what ostensibly pro-free-speech conservatives have railed against for years. Conservatives correctly criticize college students for shouting down controversial speakers, but have now stepped over to this dark side themselves.

    Perhaps the conservative activists behind the disruption thought they were proving a point. See, progressives; it's not so nice to be shouted down, is it? But an ironic embrace of progressives' own tactics will soon turn into an accepted one once conservatives realize the unfortunate effectiveness of the heckler's veto.

    These incidents should give pause to liberals and conservatives alike. Now that both sides have had a visit from the outrage brigades, one would think all players would recognize the need to drop outrage as a means of scoring cheap political victories.

    Controversial academics should be allowed to give speeches without harassment; presidents can be lampooned or worse in the name of art. In reality, however, the outrage arms race will continue due to the narrow self-interest of the activists involved. The left will continue disrupting speeches, and conservatives will feel compelled to respond in kind; all to the continued detriment of open political dialogue and expression.
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    For the love of god please stop the outrage.


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    Someone will have to crash and burn before either side gives up. Sad statement on the condition of our society...
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    Politics is lame.
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    It's tough not to react to things like what Trump says because they're just so dumb and focus on what the GOP is trying to do with the cover that he creates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    It's tough not to react to things like what Trump says because they're just so dumb and focus on what the GOP is trying to do with the cover that he creates.
    Isn't it about time to admit that both sides are bereft of integrity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    Isn't it about time to admit that both sides are bereft of integrity?

    This country is in need of leaders who lead with vision, not posers.
    Yes. Conservatives will call a leftist who whines a lot a snowflake, yet whine when Griffin shows a severed head. Both sides are quite hypocritical when it comes to sensitivity. Although I will say the left has a certain type of zealot like fervor when it comes to shutting down speech it doesn't like. You don't see that as much with the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-ross12 View Post
    Yes. Conservatives will call a leftist who whines a lot a snowflake, yet whine when Griffin shows a severed head. Both sides are quite hypocritical when it comes to sensitivity. Although I will say the left has a certain type of zealot like fervor when it comes to shutting down speech it doesn't like. You don't see that as much with the right.
    I think this is mostly the case because conservatives will come to a place where it's mostly liberals to spread their message, be it colleges and bigger cities, while liberals don't tend to go to rural places to spread their message.

    I would think that if a liberal went into a very conservative area and spread liberal values it probably would not go well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I think this is mostly the case because conservatives will come to a place where it's mostly liberals to spread their message, be it colleges and bigger cities, while liberals don't tend to go to rural places to spread their message.

    I would think that if a liberal went into a very conservative area and spread liberal values it probably would not go well.


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    Maybe, but I live in quite a conservative place. I get the sense that if a leftist agitator came here and did a speech, most conservatives just wouldn't go. I don't get a strong sense that they'd start a riot and shut down entire events. It's an entirely different feeling altogether then is Anne Coulter tries to go to Berkley.

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    Even this thread is another example of picking and choosing sides and blaming the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    I think this is mostly the case because conservatives will come to a place where it's mostly liberals to spread their message, be it colleges and bigger cities, while liberals don't tend to go to rural places to spread their message.

    I would think that if a liberal went into a very conservative area and spread liberal values it probably would not go well.


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    Fwiw, wouldn't happen in my old home town, which is very conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-ross12 View Post
    Maybe, but I live in quite a conservative place. I get the sense that if a leftist agitator came here and did a speech, most conservatives just wouldn't go. I don't get a strong sense that they'd start a riot and shut down entire events. It's an entirely different feeling altogether then is Anne Coulter tries to go to Berkley.
    Most maybe would not go, but some would and invite violence, pretty much like what happens in a place like Berkeley. Is not most liberals who do the violence thing, but some do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Most maybe would not go, but some would and invite violence, pretty much like what happens in a place like Berkeley. Is not most liberals who do the violence thing, but some do.


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    I don't think anyone confuses violence as a majority action anywhere. But I saw a ton of liberals justifying the violent actions during the Berkley protest and Ferguson etc. It's one thing to commit the violent actions, but justifying and condoning it is just as bad in my opinion. You want violence to stop, stop feeling people are justified because they have an argument. Violence is never justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Even this thread is another example of picking and choosing sides and blaming the other.
    Incorrect. Some of us are exasperated with both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Even this thread is another example of picking and choosing sides and blaming the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Fwiw, wouldn't happen in my old home town, which is very conservative.
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