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    Offseason Thread

    Welp, it was a fun season and now we have to improve.

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    Next year i want these lines

    Hyman - Matthews - Marner (you know Hyman is staying right next to Matthews)
    JVR - Nylander - Kapanen (Will Nye was a beast on the draw)
    Komarov - Kadri - Brown
    xxxx - xxxx - xxxx

    Rielly - xxxx
    Gardiner - Zaitsev
    Hunwick - Polak (i'd be ok with this because they played well when it mattered and we need some vets)


    That's what i got so far. I'd like to see Dermott impress and make the team but i'm trying to be realistic. Bozak traded for picks or a defense prospect... i'd push Montreal hard seeing as they have no C's. Juulsen is the target. As for UFAs...

    Derek Ryan. 4th line C. He's pretty good defensively and was amazing on the draw (58% i think). Boyle is good but i didn't like how slow he looked and don't want to go 3 years on him, love the acquisition but not ready to commit huge $3 million to him either. Ryan could be the best of both worlds (Bozak&Boyle) and only cost about $2 million.

    Brian Campbell. He's old but effective. Similar to Gardiner which i think could help Rielly. Campbell is credited with really helping Ekblad out his first season and we saw what happened when Campbell left. Rielly can play either side so Campbell fits with him. I also like that he's older, could get him cheap and on a short term deal.

    Patrick Marleau. I love his game and so does Babs. Good 2-ways, fits with out speed and can score (with a great shot which we desperately need). He would cost a bit of $$$ but his age/experience would help us and probably lead to a short-term deal.

    Brian Elliot. Big fan of his. We need a solid back up. No better goalie for 30 games a year than Elliot. With his embarrassing end to the playoffs you might see his price drop, or he could want to avoid the TO spotlight. Don't let his playoffs get you down though, he carried the Flames on his back for 2 prolonged stretches this year where he looked like the best in the game.

    Would be intrigued with Vrbata as well. Always got a good vibe from him. Seems like he's a coaches player, kinda like Hossa

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    I'd love to keep Boyle but yeah he's probably getting 3 or 4 years and my max is at 2. So I assume he walks. I would bring back Hunwick and Polak on 1 year deals but then I'd like to see two top 4 D brought in to push them to 6/7 status on a rotation.

    We need a centreman that can kill penalties and take draws because I think Matthews is one more year away from jumping into that Toews role.

    As far as back up goalies go you go get the best out there. It would of been nice to be comfortable sitting Freddy out a few more games. I think Dermott will challenge hard for a spot on the back end but one more year of seasoning probably wouldn't hurt. That will be decided in training camp. I'm wondering if the Goat could make the jump. If not as a centre but as a winger that gives you good centre options on draws.

    All in all this was the funnest season I can remember as a fan and this off season will be crazy interesting. Also wonder what may go down at the draft and which players may become available around the league because of expansion. The future is extremely bright. You gotta be pumped about the potential here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingerSox View Post
    I'd love to keep Boyle but yeah he's probably getting 3 or 4 years and my max is at 2. So I assume he walks. I would bring back Hunwick and Polak on 1 year deals but then I'd like to see two top 4 D brought in to push them to 6/7 status on a rotation.

    We need a centreman that can kill penalties and take draws because I think Matthews is one more year away from jumping into that Toews role.

    As far as back up goalies go you go get the best out there. It would of been nice to be comfortable sitting Freddy out a few more games. I think Dermott will challenge hard for a spot on the back end but one more year of seasoning probably wouldn't hurt. That will be decided in training camp. I'm wondering if the Goat could make the jump. If not as a centre but as a winger that gives you good centre options on draws.

    All in all this was the funnest season I can remember as a fan and this off season will be crazy interesting. Also wonder what may go down at the draft and which players may become available around the league because of expansion. The future is extremely bright. You gotta be pumped about the potential here.
    Ya, i'd love for Dermott, GOAT and maybe Nielsen to challenge for spots but i don't want us to rely on them. If we could sign Derek Ryan as our 4th line C, maybe he could platoon with the Goat for the faceoffs on their strong side.

    Wouldn't surprise me to see the Leafs move their 1st rounder. Some teams are having a cap crunch (like the B's with Boychuk and Hawks with Leddy) and this year we have the added protection crunch. Is there a team that is at risk of losing one guy for free that they don't want to lose? maybe we get lucky. If the Ducks can't get Bieksa to waive then one of Vatanen/Manson might become available.

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    All I want is shattinkirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptiMized View Post
    Ya, i'd love for Dermott, GOAT and maybe Nielsen to challenge for spots but i don't want us to rely on them. If we could sign Derek Ryan as our 4th line C, maybe he could platoon with the Goat for the faceoffs on their strong side.

    Wouldn't surprise me to see the Leafs move their 1st rounder. Some teams are having a cap crunch (like the B's with Boychuk and Hawks with Leddy) and this year we have the added protection crunch. Is there a team that is at risk of losing one guy for free that they don't want to lose? maybe we get lucky. If the Ducks can't get Bieksa to waive then one of Vatanen/Manson might become available.
    I can't see Bieksa waiving so I really think one of those guys will be available. Gonna be a boat load of teams competing to get those guys though. That will.drive the price up. I keep circling back to JVR as our best trade chip. Sucks because I like him but guys like Nylander, Marner and eventually maybe Kapanen and Leipsic could collectively make up the lost offence. Still be losing a heck of a net front presence.

    Minnesota is another team that's going to have to move a good young D man. You brought that up before. There's going to be some good options if Lou and Co. are willing to pay the freight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    All I want is shattinkirk.
    I'd like him too. But he's going to get 7 years which is a huge gamble on a 27/28 year old. Probably between 6 and 7 million. Cap situation looks good now but the three headed monster is going to eat up a tonnage of cap in the next couple of years.

    He's going to the Rangers anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingerSox View Post
    I can't see Bieksa waiving so I really think one of those guys will be available. Gonna be a boat load of teams competing to get those guys though. That will.drive the price up. I keep circling back to JVR as our best trade chip. Sucks because I like him but guys like Nylander, Marner and eventually maybe Kapanen and Leipsic could collectively make up the lost offence. Still be losing a heck of a net front presence.

    Minnesota is another team that's going to have to move a good young D man. You brought that up before. There's going to be some good options if Lou and Co. are willing to pay the freight.
    Ya, Bieksa is probably paranoid of being moved. I think it was reported that Kesler had to really convince him to make the move from Vancouver because Bieksa did not want to move. I think it's possible for a player to waive a NMC if he gets an agreement from the GM and trusts his word but Vegas will not have to abide by that rule. Seeing how Bieksa didn't suck that bad this year and in the playoffs, he could get picked from ANA if their good pieces get protected.

    Looks like JVR will be the one to go. I was just looking up San Jose and Montreal, mainly because they need scoring or might lose wingers. San Jose has a couple good RHD in the minors in Roy and Bergman. JVR might be a target for them if Marleau and Thornton walk away. Montreal could be interesting though. JVR and Bozak fit there, and as we speak Galchenyuk and Pacioretty are getting roasted by the fans and media. I think if we took back Plekanec and his salary we could get both due to them wanting to win while they have Weber and Price in their prime. But i really want Galchenyuk. The guy was one of the best in the NHL before he got injured (knee). He may not be a centre but we have the space to try him at C or W.

    I could see Bergevin going balls out this offseason. Carey Price's contract ends after next year. He earns $6.5 million and you gotta think he will join the $10 million club. Whether he re-signs isn't even a given too, there is a nice open cozy net in Vancouver that is right near his hometown.

    I really want Galchenyuk though. Dynamite talent that i didn't appreciate at his draft but realize it now. With his production level this season, you could get him signed to a Kadri-like deal which is an opportunity too good to ignore. I think we have the luxury to risk that sort of deal, don't think the Habs can do the same.

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    All I want is shattinkirk.
    Quote Originally Posted by KingerSox View Post
    I'd like him too. But he's going to get 7 years which is a huge gamble on a 27/28 year old. Probably between 6 and 7 million. Cap situation looks good now but the three headed monster is going to eat up a tonnage of cap in the next couple of years.

    He's going to the Rangers anyways.
    Would love Shattenkirk as well but i think it was Halladay that said he was a #4 guy. The first two playoff games, i though Shatty was spectacular but the remaining games? He was mediocre. And Trotz didn't think much of him either by playing him 19 minutes a night.

    If Shatty were to sign at a reasonable rate ($5 million) then i'd say sign me up. The way he skates, there is no issue with term for me unless that $$$ goes north of 5 million

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptiMized View Post
    Ya, Bieksa is probably paranoid of being moved. I think it was reported that Kesler had to really convince him to make the move from Vancouver because Bieksa did not want to move. I think it's possible for a player to waive a NMC if he gets an agreement from the GM and trusts his word but Vegas will not have to abide by that rule. Seeing how Bieksa didn't suck that bad this year and in the playoffs, he could get picked from ANA if their good pieces get protected.

    Looks like JVR will be the one to go. I was just looking up San Jose and Montreal, mainly because they need scoring or might lose wingers. San Jose has a couple good RHD in the minors in Roy and Bergman. JVR might be a target for them if Marleau and Thornton walk away. Montreal could be interesting though. JVR and Bozak fit there, and as we speak Galchenyuk and Pacioretty are getting roasted by the fans and media. I think if we took back Plekanec and his salary we could get both due to them wanting to win while they have Weber and Price in their prime. But i really want Galchenyuk. The guy was one of the best in the NHL before he got injured (knee). He may not be a centre but we have the space to try him at C or W.

    I could see Bergevin going balls out this offseason. Carey Price's contract ends after next year. He earns $6.5 million and you gotta think he will join the $10 million club. Whether he re-signs isn't even a given too, there is a nice open cozy net in Vancouver that is right near his hometown.

    I really want Galchenyuk though. Dynamite talent that i didn't appreciate at his draft but realize it now. With his production level this season, you could get him signed to a Kadri-like deal which is an opportunity too good to ignore. I think we have the luxury to risk that sort of deal, don't think the Habs can do the same.





    Would love Shattenkirk as well but i think it was Halladay that said he was a #4 guy. The first two playoff games, i though Shatty was spectacular but the remaining games? He was mediocre. And Trotz didn't think much of him either by playing him 19 minutes a night.

    If Shatty were to sign at a reasonable rate ($5 million) then i'd say sign me up. The way he skates, there is no issue with term for me unless that $$$ goes north of 5 million
    Yup, Shatty is a #4 to me. He can't defend. You need someone there to hold his hand. He can be useful, there's no doubt he'll give you offense. But, that's not what we need. Scoring wasn't and won't be an issue moving forward. It'd be crazy to give a 2nd pairing PP specialist 7x7. That's almost franchise D type of money. Too much for a guy that doesn't really fill a need.

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    Zaitsev not playing in Worlds, Team Russia said that the reason given was a concussion. Good, hope he takes time to rest. I have a feeling he rushed himself back. Admirable but stupid, still love Z though.

    I hope all our guys skip worlds. They've all played so much hockey, i don't want them burnt out. Freddy and Zaitsev need to rest and if any of the other Leafs are thinking about being on skates the next month they should be training not playing. Even Matthews, ask Brian Boyle and Tyler Bozak to have some sleepovers and work on nothing but faceoffs

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    I'd look to trade for Schmidt from the Caps. He was really impressive for me. He'd be a huge upgrade on Hunwick. He has wheels, something we lacked on that third pairing. I'd also like to see JVR moved out for D help. I think I'm done with JVR. I'm just not a fan and he's exactly the type to disappear come playoff time. Move him and another asset or two to Anaheim for a top 4 D. I'd then see what NJ wants for Kovalchuk. I wouldn't expect the price to be too high. That replaces JVR's production and gives Matthews a winger and allows Nylander to center his own line. I'd like to see Boyle back as well. Hopefully Vegas will take Martin. Use that money saved to keep Boyle(he'd only cost maybe $1 million more a year). Sosh replaces Martin. Call up Rychel assuming he makes it past vegas and he gets the other 4th line spot. We also need a new backup. Mcbackup seems like a good pro but we can do better. There's a bunch of goalies out there, it's just a matter of who is willing to take a backup role. Would anyone offer Chad Johnson a #1 role? He'd seem like an ideal backup here. Cut down on some of Andersens starts. I know Lou likes to overuse his goalies but with a good backup it's not needed. Hyman-Matthews-Kovalchuk brown-Kadri-Komarov Kapanen-Nylander-Marner Sosh-Boyle-Rychel Rielly-Zaitsev Gardiner-Fowler(?) Schmidt-Carrick. Polak as 7th D. I realise I have plenty of players on their wrong side but I'm just thinking out loud here. The only real major moves are dealing JVR and picking up Kovy.

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    Not that we need offense but how would you feel about moving Bozak this offseason, gaining assets, and then bringing in Jumbo Joe for a year or two? Has played for Babs plenty for the National team and just somehow played with a torn ACL and MCL at 37 years old. Still a great passer and could be a good fit with Brown or Kapanen.

    Could use the Bozak assets to add to the search for D help and you don't get worse.

    Carolina also needs to add a bunch of cap, offer up Lupul for a conditional 7th (if he plays for them). And we could be a major player in both FA and the trade market for D-men.

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    Who would he play with? We have no scorers anyway!

    If he signs cheap, sure but i'm not sure Thornton adds much to our team that we don't already have. Nowhere for him to play if Nylander slides over to centre and he's not playing the wing. He also would want to keep his beard away from Lou

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    He had ACL and MCL surgery today I think. That's gotta be tough to come back from at his age. I mean he's not done. He'll play again next year but that could really take a toll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingerSox View Post
    He had ACL and MCL surgery today I think. That's gotta be tough to come back from at his age. I mean he's not done. He'll play again next year but that could really take a toll.
    Add in the fact that i think he only had 3 goals before the all-star break and only 7 on the year. In this media circus they would annoy the living hell out of him about it despite knowing that he is a playmaker now. We don't have the snipers for him to play with. He's spent almost all of his time with Marleau and Pavelski who both have much better shots that anyone on the team

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