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  1. #16
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    It's a sweet deal for us... Marshall probably took a discount to stay in NY so he can do his TV show lol

    This is exciting
    Quote Originally Posted by El Patito View Post
    Wow, you just won't let this go will you? I'd be more than happy to provide the numbers again if you'd like. The fact is that Marmol in his best season, put up one of the greatest performances by a reliever in the history of baseball. Better than Rivera? Youre damn right. You can't deny this.
    Marmolololololol

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    Great move. I can see Eli getting a pro bowl type season and us making a run at the ring now. Last year our defense was championship level, this is step one to getting our offense there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyubi256 View Post
    Great move. I can see Eli getting a pro bowl type season and us making a run at the ring now. Last year our defense was championship level, this is step one to getting our offense there too
    Don't want to be a party pooper here but before last season people (not just Giants fans) were saying he could be MVP... as long as our o-line plays like it did last year it's gonna be rough for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei00 View Post
    How exactly is Shepard better than Marshall?

    Anyway, good signing.
    He is younger, less injury prone, not a dramatic person. Marshall is one of the best WRs in the last decade or so, but you have to look at the ceiling for Shepard and how he will get better this season because ODB and Marshall command a lot of a secondary's attention. Shepard can play in the slot and even play on KR/PR if we cut Dwayne Harris (which is very possible from what the latest news about restructuring him or releasing him). Shepard will also be a security blanket for Eli besides a TE. Vereen is no guarantee to stay on the team.

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    Marshall is also a good blocking WR. O Line needs all the help it can get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade n Fade View Post
    He is younger, less injury prone, not a dramatic person. Marshall is one of the best WRs in the last decade or so, but you have to look at the ceiling for Shepard and how he will get better this season because ODB and Marshall command a lot of a secondary's attention. Shepard can play in the slot and even play on KR/PR if we cut Dwayne Harris (which is very possible from what the latest news about restructuring him or releasing him). Shepard will also be a security blanket for Eli besides a TE. Vereen is no guarantee to stay on the team.
    I understand his future looks brighter, that's normal, one's soon to be 33 and the other is a sophomore in the league, but it's wayyyyyy too early to say he's better, or that he'll take the next step this upcoming season for what it's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei00 View Post
    I understand his future looks brighter, that's normal, one's soon to be 33 and the other is a sophomore in the league, but it's wayyyyyy too early to say he's better, or that he'll take the next step this upcoming season for what it's worth.
    Normally I agree with young guys, but Shepard is a high potential guy who flashed his talent multiple times last season.

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    I LOVE this signing!!! It sets up the perfect WR core.

    Speed-OBJ
    Height/Physical- BMarsh
    Quick Route Runner- Shep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade n Fade View Post
    Normally I agree with young guys, but Shepard is a high potential guy who flashed his talent multiple times last season.
    Sure. But it seems like every year we're praising promising young dudes, who more often than not in recent years haven't turned out as we were hoping. Flashing is one thing, proving himself is another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei00 View Post
    Sure. But it seems like every year we're praising promising young dudes, who more often than not in recent years haven't turned out as we were hoping. Flashing is one thing, proving himself is another one.
    Yes, potential doesn't mean anything. You have to have results on the field. How many times did we praise rubin randle and thought he was about to take the next step? Shepard has to take that next step first and prove himself. At this point, Marshal is the better receiver. But either way, Marshal makes this team better.

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    Love the Marshall signing for three reasons:

    1) Eli finally gets a big physical WR, something he hasn't really had since Plax. This should translate to better redzone possessions. What i missed the most from the Burress days were the back shoulder throws and the physicality especially on WR screens.

    2) Marshall is one of the best blocking wideouts in the league. This should benefit our RB/WR screen plays as well as our running game.

    3) Opposing defenses will now have to worry about covering TWO big play receivers capable of taking over a game. As a result, look for Shepard to be very productive as a slot receiver.
    Last edited by Armo_NYG_fan; 03-08-2017 at 04:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFG-NYC View Post
    Yes, potential doesn't mean anything. You have to have results on the field. How many times did we praise rubin randle and thought he was about to take the next step? Shepard has to take that next step first and prove himself. At this point, Marshal is the better receiver. But either way, Marshal makes this team better.
    Agreed with B-Marsh. He is an excellent addition to this team on paper. The OL, RB, and TE spots are the only things needing upgrades. OL is the easiest thing to address imo. So many options.

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    I think people make too big a deal out of the "Eli needs a big target" thing. He's done fine with guys as little as Steve Smith, even when he moved to the outside on plays.

    Eli needs 3 things from his WRs (as most QBs do):
    1 - Catching radius. Doesn't matter if you're 6'4 or 5'8 with the ability to jump, you need a wide range to allow room for error. Guys like OBJ and Nicks may not have been as tall as Plax, but they play big.

    2- Smart. Eli is a details guy. You have to see what he sees, make the reads he expects and be a precision route runner.

    3 - Trustworthy. It's never mattered how good a WR is. If you start doing things like stopping on routes, missing a hot, dropping passes....Eli is very quick to move on to another target and has no problem eyeing down that same target over and over.

    All these reasons are why we haven't had a reliable TE since Ballard. Bennet was a playmaker, but he wasn't smart and trustworthy. Had his fair share of poor routes and drops. But he could at least block and we haven't had a 2-way TE recently.

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    Now it's time to get Eli a line that can create a pocket to step into so he can make throws to arguably the best receiving core in the NFL.

    Need a Tackle and a Guard.

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    You know what's crazy? Brandon Marshall has never played a playoff game before... Yeah let that sink in.

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