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    2017 Spring Training thread

    With pitchers and catchers reporting in five days (14th) and full squad workouts starting on the 17th, it's time to get this thread up.

    First spring training game is February 24th against the Reds.

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    Thank goodness baseball season is back! But they really need to cut spring training games by a week or two. Start the season earlier and have more off days during the regular season.

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    Mostly looking forward to seeing how much the old guys have left in the tank. Rooting for Rollins and Morse to do well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincecum4CY View Post
    Thank goodness baseball season is back! But they really need to cut spring training games by a week or two. Start the season earlier and have more off days during the regular season.
    The only problem with starting the season earlier is that the weather would cause more postponements in most areas of the country.
    Baseball has been very very good to me!

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    World Series, here we come!
    49ers, lakers, sf giants, la kings fan...but im a mountaineer for life..wv to cali...

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    I thought you said we didn't have any high price talent? We don't, Dorn is just high priced.


    This is the first spring since I've been in Scottsdale, that I won't be able to make it out to the park all that much. I'll be there Monday. I'll try to sneak one in there occasionally, but only a couple games for me this year.

    I miss those days of just watching the guys. I do vividly remember or feeling "magic" with the 2012 Spring Training team... it's almost like the team felt special.
    2009-2014. 3 World Series Championships, 2 Stanley Cup Championships, 2 NBA Championships, and a Super Bowl Appearance. 3 No-Hitters, 1 Perfect Game, 3 NFC Title Games, Jim Harbaugh, Bruce Bochy, Phil Jackson, Daryl Sutter.

    PRESENT: Lakers #2 draft pick (New GM, New President), Giants #2 draft pick (somebody better get fired), 49ers #2 draft pick (New Coach, New GM), LA Kings #11 draft pick (New Coach, New GM)

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    Ellis Burks has been hired as a spring training instructor and special assistant.

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    Anything official on Bonds yet? I don't see why they can't just make up a position for him to be in the dugout during the regular season. Seems silly the Marlins hired him before the Giants did.







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    Not sure how to shorten the season. More doubleheaders, go back to 154?

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    Fangraphs write up on Arroyo.

    The San Francisco Giants of recent history have mystified the baseball world. Three unexpected World Series championships in five seasons will have that effect on people. In the mid-2000s, Giants fans endured teams that were Barry Bonds or bust. When Pablo Sandoval was named an All-Star in 2011, he became the first homegrown Giants position player to be so honored since Matt Williams in 1996.

    All that has changed. Call it what you wish: Devil Magic, Pixie Dust, or Just Plain Luck. Any way you slice it, the modern Giants have churned out above-average position players at an above-average rate. Sandoval, Buster Posey, Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt, Joe Panik, and Matt Duffy have all made their mark on the big leagues since 2009, and most have been unexpected contributors to unexpected title runs.

    It’s not like the people in charge have changed. Brian Sabean was the team’s general manager from 1997-2014, and he was promoted to executive vice president of baseball operations in 2015. Bobby Evans, the senior vice president and general manager, and Jeremy Shelley, the vice president and assistant general manager, have been with the organization since 1994. Giants executives often cite their continuity as key to their success.

    But something else is going on. How does an organization that simply could not produce an impact position player for more than twenty years suddenly have them all over the field? The purpose of this article is not to analyze why — it’s to draw your attention to the fact, and to introduce you to who could be next.

    Christian Arroyo, like another recent Giants draftee, was not a consensus first round draft pick, but that didn’t stop the Giants from selecting him 25th overall in 2013. Scouts considered the pick a reach because Arroyo didn’t have a major tool. Scouts thought pretty much the exact same thing about Joe Panik when the Giants drafted him 29th overall in 2011, but Panik has slashed .280/.343/.403 with a 109 wRC+ and excellent defense in 300 games with San Francisco since 2014.

    Arroyo has a similar profile to Panik, and he’s ready for the major leagues. Although he slashed just .274/.316/.373 with an 89 wRC+ in Double-A last season, FanGraphs’ own Eric Longenhagen said that Arroyo’s struggles were “largely a result of the poor hitting environment in Richmond” and that “Arroyo’s feel for contact remains superb and he still projects as a .300-plus hitter with supernatural feel for doubles-producing contact down both lines and to both gaps.”

    Granted, this is one of the more optimistic reviews of Arroyo out there, but it isn’t surprising. Most analysts agree that Arroyo has a plus to plus-plus hit tool to go along with mediocre power and speed. Longenhagen adds that Arroyo “projects as a Martin Prado type of player at peak, someone who primarily lines up at third base but can kick around to other positions should the need arise and who also makes lots of hard, low-lying contact.”

    Not only does Arroyo sound like the prototypical Giants hitter, he also sounds like a potentially valuable fantasy asset. In auction leagues, who among us wouldn’t have loved a cheap 2014 Joe Panik or 2015 Matt Duffy or Brandon Crawford? Those players almost invariably provided owners with enviable surplus value. Arroyo could be next, and he could do so this season.

    The Giants’ third base situation is fluid, to say the least. Arroyo’s presence in the organization is one reason why the Giants felt comfortable trading Matt Duffy, the 2015 National League Rookie of the Year runner-up. Indeed, the day Duffy was traded, when asked about Arroyo and the long-term future of the position, General Manager Bobby Evans said, “We feel very good about [Arroyo’s] ability to handle [third base].”

    Eduardo Nunez is expected to receive the bulk of the playing time at third in 2017, with Conor Gillaspie, Jae-gyun Hwang, and Gordon Beckham as backups. Nuñez performed well in 2016, but he’s far from a sure thing, and the same can be said about the reserves. If Nuñez and others struggle to get the job done at third base, the door could open for Arroyo.

    Ignore him at your own risk. His promotion will likely go unnoticed, and the person who scoops him up off waivers could be rewarded. While Arroyo may not walk much or have great power or speed, he could be a valuable fantasy asset nonetheless. Joe Panik is fantasy relevant. Matt Duffy was certainly fantasy relevant in 2015. Even Brandon Crawford, long considered a glove-only shortstop, learned to hit at the big league level and is fantasy relevant.

    Christian Arroyo is next in line. Belt and Posey aside, the recent crop of productive Giants position players wasn’t hyped. They quietly made their debuts, and they quietly performed. What Giants position player prospects lack in name recognition and prodigious projections, they make up for with unexpected production and perhaps a pinch of magic.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/chr...could-be-next/

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    According to Pavs, the Giants will give Trevor Brown some work at 1B & 2B this spring. That versatility could allow the to carry 3 catchers. FML.








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    Let's just stay healthy this spring and not have any season ending injuries like the Cards. Anything new on JC? Will he make camp by the weekend?

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    Tim Hudson will be an instructor this spring.

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    A little bit of an article about Morse returning. He said he only wants to play as a Giant. I sure hope he makes the team. I want to be see him back out there, no matter what role.

    SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Two years and one month after the biggest moment of his career, Michael Morse found himself back among the Giants. Morse, a fan favorite in 2014 and clutch bench bat during that postseason run, returned to San Francisco in November for Hunter Pence’s wedding, and at some point he found himself standing with general manager Bobby Evans.

    “I know I’m not done,” said Morse, who received just eight at-bats from the Pirates before being released last April.

    “If you want to see if you’re done or not, come to camp,” Evans replied.

    Pence’s wedding was a long one, taking place on both sides of the Bay Bridge. Morse didn’t need much time, however, to accept the surprising offer. He ran into Larry Baer later in the wedding and told him he would see him in the spring. Then he saw Pence, one of his close friends.

    “He was so excited. He was like, ‘No way!” Morse said. “I said, 'I think we just shook on a little deal here.' If (Evans) is telling me I can come to camp, I’m coming. I’m coming hard. I’m giving everything I have.”

    Planning a reunion was easy, but Morse flew back to his Fort Lauderdale home knowing there could be speed bumps. He had briefly talked to the Giants about a comeback last summer, but they signed Chris Denorfia. Morse started doing cardio and kept a close eye on the Giants during the Winter Meetings to make sure his potential role wasn’t filled.

    In December, the Giants made the deal official. On Thursday, Morse, slimmed down from his first stint in San Francisco, walked back onto the field at Scottsdale Stadium, a wide smile on his face.
    More in the link.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/mic...ow-im-not-done

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