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  1. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by passengershawn View Post
    Thank you Wolfe...I appreciate that! Now hopefully we'll see an article soon stating Riley Jr. has been resigned, and...within the next week get the yes or no on Smith so everyone can move on!
    You are welcome. I would love to hear that Riley and Brown got signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tippa irie View Post
    I think we would be naive to think the league gives two cents about Aldon. They are concerned about their brand. The billions of dollars that come pouring in from their sponsors. Thats why IMO it always seems to be selective and inconsistent with these cases. Aldon absolutely needs help. But if the League/Commish cared would you completely turn your back on someone in need of help and basically say stay away until you get your crap together. Or actually help. Has anyone from the league met Aldon at an AA meeting? No way. The league has abandoned Aldon by isolating him and not letting his peers help him through a very difficult recovery. An addiction is a disease whether you break a law or not. You are not only an alcoholic if you get a few DUis. Aldon is on the same exact path as Gronk. Any expert in this field would notice the warning signs. It is embarrassing how this is being handled. Aldon should not be reinstated he should be getting as much help as possible from the league. They should encourage his peers to help if need be, and should reach out and help as well. You dont taunt him and play mind games with somebody who is not right of mind. Give the poor man a break tell him your answer and help him
    Spot on indeed.

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    It's very hard for me to relate to an alcoholic, there is a big difference being an alcoholic and being involved in an "alcohol" related incident. When I was only a year in the Air Force, I was 19 or 20 ( when the drinking age was 18) I was involved in an alcohol related incident, so I had to attend a Alcohol awareness class for 2 weeks, now I may not know Aldon's past as much as some of you, but is it fair to label him an "alcoholic". I could be a very simple issue as being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or simple making wrong decisions.

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    If what we see in his private life that becomes public is any indication, then the man has a problem with alcohol Flash. That is my opinion at least.

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    Kobe,

    I agree he has a problem with alcohol, it seem his decision making and awareness becomes impaired by alcohol, may be that lables him an alcoholic.

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    Could be that he is already emotionally unstable and alcohol is just gasoline on the fire. Very plausible. However, if we take the common ingredient in each of his episodes, it seems to be alcohol. That would indicate to me that alcohol is the problem, not so much emotional maturity. I've seen 21 year Olds handle alcohol better then 45 year Olds, in that case is it emotional maturity or an alcohol problem?

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    aldon Smith to be reinstated in March

    Slice it however you like...he's unreliable. Which is just about the worst trait an employee can have.

    We should have moved on a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnSU View Post
    Could be that he is already emotionally unstable and alcohol is just gasoline on the fire. Very plausible. However, if we take the common ingredient in each of his episodes, it seems to be alcohol. That would indicate to me that alcohol is the problem, not so much emotional maturity. I've seen 21 year Olds handle alcohol better then 45 year Olds, in that case is it emotional maturity or an alcohol problem?

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    There are so many indicators that could label one as an alcoholic. Some would be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passengershawn View Post
    I think the long-term concern is that, aside from pro football, his normalcy and life could be a distant memory in a few more seasons if he keeps making poor decisions.

    I disagree with some posters re: alcoholism not being a curable disease, but do agree that the individual has to take ownership and want to change...and with that, the necessary steps of follow through and accountability to change. Alcoholism, in it's addiction capacity, isn't much different from a porn addiction. Everyone has different levels of ability to resist, and once it's roots are settles, it's VERY difficult to be set free. I truly believe the only cure for addictions/diseases such as this is through a faith in Christ. That's the only chance and source for true freedom...everything else is a temporary band-aid. I know many will disagree, and some will agree...I'm not here to create a platform of controversy...it's just what I personally believe.

    Soooo...in saying all that...I used to be angry with the NFL for all the delay. As a Raiders fan I want the best team on the field, and if Smith is healthy, he makes our team better. However, perhaps the NFL sees things we don't...or maybe we do, but our allegiance is to the team...and not to Aldon. Regardless of the reasons the NFL may have for not making a decision yet...and perhaps denying his reinstatement, is there a chance it's for the best interest of Aldon Smith in the long-run? Can he handle the spotlight and money in his current state without creating more self-inflicting damage?

    We can point to other NFL meatheads who have seemed to slip the NFL discipline radar...there's a lot of them! But that's out of our hands, and the Raiders hands. For everything we've seen in the past year+, it has afforded strong evidence that Aldon has not matured to the extent that he's shown he can handle his life. Whether he has committed illegal activity or not isn't the question for the NFL. It's the question of 'can he be trusted on & off the field to represent the NFL in a positive manner?' And it's only a fair question re: Aldon because of the circumstances he put himself in...and the NFL, under those parameters, has every right to drag their heels...whether it's because they have an agenda, or because they want what's best for Aldon.

    If he's really and truly changed...he would do whatever it takes...and by the company he keeps, he seems to be setting himself up for future heartbreak.
    I appreciate your views thanks for sharing Shawn.

    Most fellowships advocate the use of a higher power Christ or anything that you can accept is greater than yourself. It has been shown to have a significant lasting effect on many. I've heard many views on the reasons for this ranging from spiritual awakening to brainwashing to structural hierarchy to simply openness and honesty.

    Again addiction is a complex diseases it requires genetic disposition relative trauma and environmental factors/conditions. No one size fits all.

    Aldon IMHO should never have been isolated from the team and a working environment that gave him purpose and within which he was abstinent from all we know. NFL needs to look at this if it actually wants to help players with problems.

    Again I do not have any knowledge other than my opinion on Aldons situation from what I have read and seen through media.

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    I say let him play! He hasnt harmed anyone. It's a lot to do about nothing IMO.

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    Aldon knows the score. He has been through a counseling session or two. He is a grown man and makes a decision when he is sober knowing the consequences of his actions. There is not a damn thing anyone can do to help Aldon.
    I don't feel sorry for Aldon and you shouldn't either. His teammates and his coaches shouldn't have to babysit him. He is on a path of his own choosing.

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