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    What to do with Tony Snell?

    1st off, I'm a fan, I like what Snell has done for this team. I think he fits well as a 3 and D SG on the starting unit. His offense is marginal, but his defense more than makes up for his lack of offense and playing with Giannis and Jabari, he doesn't need to score that much.

    With that being said, I think the bucks need to let him walk after the season or they need to trade Kris Middleton to keep Snell in the starting lineup. I don't think Snell fits on the 2nd unit, because of his lack of offense.

    Moose is not going to be a buck forever and when he leaves, we will need offensive fire power on the 2nd unit. Our 2nd unit Pg either Delly or Brogdan are both quality Pg's, but not high scorer's. When Moose leaves our 2nd Unit Center will not be a scorer. Teletovic can score some, but is not a player to build the 2nd unit offense around. So we better add a SG that can score to play on the 2nd unit and thats not Tony Snell.

    Our 2017 1st round pick needs to be a SG to play and score on the 2nd unit behind Middleton.

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    Answer is pretty easy. Unless he comes back cheap he's gone. Not enough money to go around. Second off I disagree that our 2017 first-rounder NEEDS to be a SG. Bucks could use a C, a PG and a SG. Go BPA. Who does team like? Go with them. Rather have that and end up with a talent than a wash out. Bucks can get a PG and deal Delly; get a C and trade Henson and Moose might walk. If SG is best player take one. But don't pigeon-hole pick to a SG.

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    Especially when Middleton comes back, I don't think offensive firepower on the 2nd unit is that huge of need. You can sprinkle your substitution patterns to almost always have one of Giannis, Parker or Midds in the game. It's not like this is hockey where you have to line change when you make your substitutions. Slide someone line Middleton or Parker out earlier in the first quarter to give them a quick breather and bring them back when Giannis needs a breather.

    Unless you have foul trouble, you really shouldn't need to last more than a handful of minutes a night with all 3 of Giannis, Parker and Middleton out of the game.

    Ignoring the center spot, since those guys just rotate with one another whenever, you can easily do something where you bring Middleton and brogdon out at the 6 minute mark in the first for delly and snell or Telly. Run another 2-3 minutes and bring the other of Telly or snell for Parker. Then a minute or two later bring back Middleton and Brogdon for delly and Giannis. Then wait another couple minutes to filter Parker back and Giannis back a few minutes after that. You basically never go without having at least one of the big 3 on the floor and you shouldn't go more than 3-4 minutes at a time without at least 2 on the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    Answer is pretty easy. Unless he comes back cheap he's gone. Not enough money to go around. Second off I disagree that our 2017 first-rounder NEEDS to be a SG. Bucks could use a C, a PG and a SG. Go BPA. Who does team like? Go with them. Rather have that and end up with a talent than a wash out. Bucks can get a PG and deal Delly; get a C and trade Henson and Moose might walk. If SG is best player take one. But don't pigeon-hole pick to a SG.
    I agree with the PG, because Brogdan or Delly could play the SG position. The point is we need a scorer. I don't agree with drafting a Center unless he's a stretch 5. The Center position as we know it is going to become extinct. Monoe did a nice job between last year and this of adapting so that he isn't so obsolete yet, but we might not be far away from eliminating the position. Teams with the defensive rebounding type Centers are not fairing well in todays NBA. Detroit, Miami and even the Clippers are a threat to no one. Brooks Lopez made the right move in becoming a 3 point specialist. Giannis may be our Center in tomorrows NBA.

    Or the answer is easy, we should trade Middleton!
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    Snell's a really good fit, and a no-brainer to keep unless the price point gets ridiculous.

    If Middleton does come back healthy, and Brogdon continues to demand big minutes, then I think there's a case for Snell getting minutes over Delly or Teletovic. Plenty of minutes to go around there.

    I think Snell could be the first option off the bench, and on nights when he's hitting the three, he could play 30 minutes, taking minutes from Teletovic, Delly, or Beasley.

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    I disagree that more offense is needed, if Monroe opts in and Middleton comes back strong. Monroe leading a bench unit as the overall 4th scoring option is actually pretty dang solid.


    A stretch 5 would be great, and hopefully Thon becomes that in another couple years.

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    I still think we should slide Monroe back into a higher minute roll. We are going to need him playing 30 plus minutes a night if we expect to win a playoff series. Snell is meh. I think we let him walk after the year, he's not good enough to commit any money towards, we have bigger needs and too much money locked up as it is, replace him with a vet at the min who doesn't count against the cap.

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    Snell's defense isn't gonna be replaced by a vet minimum guy.

    I think 26 MPG is good for Monroe. He's playing great, but I think part of that has to do with his lower minute total as a bigger/slower guy.

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    Snell's defense doesn't need to be. Middleton will be the starter and he's a better defender, we won't need an elite defender coming off the bench, we need a guy who can score.

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    Snell might command 9 mill. No way Bucks can swing that with current cap situation. He's a nice fit but he is replaceable for a cheaper player.

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    Plenty of solid vets can fill his role and if we can contend more will be willing to come here for a ring. I'd argue that right now Terry is more valuable to this team than Snell.

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    I'd be open to dealing him if someone wants him. Sell high and middleton is coming back. Might as well try and get something for him if we're not going to win a title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    Snell might command 9 mill. No way Bucks can swing that with current cap situation. He's a nice fit but he is replaceable for a cheaper player.
    9 Mil is way too much. Maybe last offseaslon, but there is not nearly as much money avalable this offseason, with a lot more teams already over the cap. Maybe 2 years and 9 Mil might be the going price.

    Bucks cannot offer anyone more than veteran minimums unless they dump a contract or Moose opts out. We can't afford 2 years and $9 Mil as it stands right now. The only additions will be from the draft. Might be wise to trade someone for another 2nd rounder, just to fill out our roster or it might be time to cut ties with Vaughn as his salary is increasing.

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    With the way Moose is playing he can probably feel good about opting out and I fully expect him too. Snell will get more than 4.5 mill per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopackgo87 View Post
    With the way Moose is playing he can probably feel good about opting out and I fully expect him too. Snell will get more than 4.5 mill per.
    But what teams would be a "fit" for him, seeing the bucks appear to not have been able to trade him? I mean Portland is an obvious fit, but they are lacking defense as is, no?
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