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  1. #1081
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    Quote Originally Posted by topdog View Post
    I don't exactly trust Thibs as a GM so I'm in for the playoffs and quick exit if nothing less than to break that unseemly streak. Sadly, I'm more excited for Utah's playoff run than Minnesota's (and no that does not mean I'm bandwagoning). I just have serious concerns about the next roughly 5 years with Thibs at the helm.
    What's in the food matters, I get it. You can't just eat it cause it says its pizza.
    D. Rob gives Hakeem 40/16/7/4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RP3SvZ4O8
    D. Rob gives Alonzo 52/14/7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NRWNX7Z7Y
    D. Rob gives the Pistons 34/10/10/10
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpT0QdUDIY
    D. Rob gives the Clippers 71/14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck4KXAydlkE
    D. Rob gives Shaq 36/13/7/6
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XivZd3mRVw
    D. Rob gives Ewing 45/16
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  2. #1082
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    Quote Originally Posted by effen5 View Post
    I'm confused, you haven't had 41 wins in a while, this might be your first playoff birth in over a decade, what more do you need? If Thibs goes, it can also go back the opposite direction where you go through another streak of not making the playoffs. That's what I'm afraid of with the Bulls, I see very little upside with 3 average to good players and the downfall came when the Bulls fired Thibs.
    Yeah, the Wolves are better than they have been in 10 years period. That is the bottom line, but people want to focus on a few underlying stats instead of the fact we have improved every year so Im a bit throwed myself, but
    that is what its gonna be rown hur.
    D. Rob gives Hakeem 40/16/7/4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RP3SvZ4O8
    D. Rob gives Alonzo 52/14/7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NRWNX7Z7Y
    D. Rob gives the Pistons 34/10/10/10
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpT0QdUDIY
    D. Rob gives the Clippers 71/14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck4KXAydlkE
    D. Rob gives Shaq 36/13/7/6
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XivZd3mRVw
    D. Rob gives Ewing 45/16
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Ddm9WVzjA
    IF YOU DON"T KNOW, NOW YOU KNOW

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    Wolves starters tired of being tired?

    Not that we haven't noticed or commented on it already, but yahoo has a very brief article tying together separate calls from Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson and now Jeff Teague to give the bench more minutes (and ostensibly to give them more rest).

    I will add to that yet another opposing duo of commentators - this time on the Memphis broadcast, commenting that the Wolves looked like they might be fatigued in the 4th quarter and that that was "the 1 issue" Thibs had in Chicago.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jeff-te...231503385.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdog View Post
    Not that we haven't noticed or commented on it already, but yahoo has a very brief article tying together separate calls from Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson and now Jeff Teague to give the bench more minutes (and ostensibly to give them more rest).

    I will add to that yet another opposing duo of commentators - this time on the Memphis broadcast, commenting that the Wolves looked like they might be fatigued in the 4th quarter and that that was "the 1 issue" Thibs had in Chicago.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jeff-te...231503385.html
    1) Today's NBA players are a bunch of whiny pus***. Even going back a decade ago, 40 mpg was not out of the ordinary.
    2) They do need more rest, because they obviously aren't conditioned well enough to play 40 mpg.


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    I just realized the pick we got was from OKC, and we lost our pick, because we made playoffs. Erm.. Considering we are capped, I don't think this "experience of being in playoffs" is more valuable than a first rounder. It would be much better if we just fell out of playoffs altogether, because, you know, our ceiling is first or second round exit anyway.

    Playoffs might be a valuable experience for a young team like Philly, or Boston's young players who got an unexpected leadership role due to Hayward/Kyrie injury. For us, it's just a first round pick wasted. With two consecutive picks, we could've went for a combination of one high risk/high reward player, and one safer pick, or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar View Post
    I just realized the pick we got was from OKC, and we lost our pick, because we made playoffs. Erm.. Considering we are capped, I don't think this "experience of being in playoffs" is more valuable than a first rounder. It would be much better if we just fell out of playoffs altogether, because, you know, our ceiling is first or second round exit anyway.

    Playoffs might be a valuable experience for a young team like Philly, or Boston's young players who got an unexpected leadership role due to Hayward/Kyrie injury. For us, it's just a first round pick wasted. With two consecutive picks, we could've went for a combination of one high risk/high reward player, and one safer pick, or something like that.
    Ya we have a slightly lower pick than what we would have if we kept ours.

    I generally agree but it is what it is and at least the playoff drought is over. I still am very worried that Thibs is in charge but I guess we give him at least another season to prove he had a plan or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar View Post
    I just realized the pick we got was from OKC, and we lost our pick, because we made playoffs. Erm.. Considering we are capped, I don't think this "experience of being in playoffs" is more valuable than a first rounder. It would be much better if we just fell out of playoffs altogether, because, you know, our ceiling is first or second round exit anyway.

    Playoffs might be a valuable experience for a young team like Philly, or Boston's young players who got an unexpected leadership role due to Hayward/Kyrie injury. For us, it's just a first round pick wasted. With two consecutive picks, we could've went for a combination of one high risk/high reward player, and one safer pick, or something like that.
    I don't see it as being a huge deal.

    Whoever we draft, Thibs isn't going to play them for at least three years anyway, if at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellington19 View Post
    I don't see it as being a huge deal.

    Whoever we draft, Thibs isn't going to play them for at least three years anyway, if at all.
    When I first read this it made me chuckle but then I realized how accurate your statement is and it kind of bummed me out. There are a lot of rookies and 2nd year players that provided a ton of help to their teams this year in the NBA. Thib's stubbornness is one of the things I really don't like about him and why guys like Brad Stevens are so coveted.

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    Saw this posted on the PSD page...

    https://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headl...ticleId=514777

    Rumors that Thibodeau could get fired this summer are premature, although the locker room has become increasingly divided between loyalists who previously played for Thibodeau in Chicago and younger players who are turned off by his abrasive style. However, replacing Thibodeau now would anger Butler and Taj Gibson and leave the team at a disadvantage heading into the draft and free agency. Robson believes Thibodeau, who still has three years left on his contract, could be in danger if the Wolves don’t move up the Western Conference ladder next season.
    It will be surprising if Karl-Anthony Towns is put on the trade market this summer, even if the rumors about his unhappiness in Minnesota are true. Towns is just 22 and is under team control for at least two more seasons. A suggested deal for the Spurs’ Kawhi Leonard wouldn’t work for the Wolves because there’s no good way to replace Towns in the middle. Towns reportedly wants a bigger role in the offense and less “tough love” from Thibodeau and Butler.
    Minnesota probably should have passed on an extension for Andrew Wiggins last summer and dealt with him as a restricted free agent. Robson suggests Thibodeau may have been forced into the move by owner Glen Taylor, but adds that a trade is unlikely now because it would be difficult for the Wolves to get equal value in return.
    The team would almost certainly have to surrender a first-round pick to unload the contract of Gorgui Dieng, who is owed more than $48MM over the next three years. Thibodeau lost confidence in Dieng during the season and his playing time was cut nearly in half.

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    Roster Update/Discussion #3

    I don't think we need to dump dieng, it's not like we need that cap space and we absolutely need to add another young stud.

    Wiggins situation was kinda tough as we all know, he was gonna get paid by someone given his "potential"

    The towns and thibs part is just more of the same. I explained why o think thibs brought his guys in (he got exposed with poor coaching year 1). Now the people he brought in are the main things keeping him around it seems as his main support while other seem tired of him. It's nothing really new but annoys me if true that it's mostly thibs and a few guys he brought in creating the rift/issues.

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    Dieng is fine. He is never going to be great but is decent and the price compared to others at his level is a bit high but not over the top. Who takes his place? Patton? Not ready.... Aldrich? not... he is a usable piece at this point.

    Wiggin's everyone's whipping boy it appears turned 23 this February... His biggest problem this year was the offensive style that Tib's employs... F'n Iso basketball. Can't stand it. One guy gets the ball and everyone clear out. With him being 3rd on the totem pole he was just never in the flow of the game. We really need to gut and get closer to a motion offense with off the ball picks and back cuts creating offense for everyone on the floor. Thus getting all involved ie.... GS... Better suited for our young guys and expands usage of the bench.

    We shall see... should be an interesting offseason.

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