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  1. #1
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    UPDATE: Ken Giles Traded to Astros

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/1...es-astros.html

    Astros receive: Ken Giles & Jonathan Arauz

    Phillies receive: Vincent Velasquez, Brett Oberholtzer, Thomas Eshelman, Mark Appel, and Harold Arauz.

    Wow...didn't see this update coming.
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    I saw this and thought it was bogus at first. This went from a good trade to a great one for me.

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    Appel makes this better even though I did like the idea of Fisher.

    You could have a rotation of Appel, Velasquez, Nola, and Thompson as soon as 2017, maybe even the end of 2016.
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    It's funny how much everyone is overreacting to this swap of Appel/Fisher. Not really a big shift in value - if any!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    It's funny how much everyone is overreacting to this swap of Appel/Fisher. Not really a big shift in value - if any!
    Well considering Appel was just taken #1 overall two years ago I can understand why people are excited about it. He may not have lived up to his potential yet but it wouldn't be the first time a player went to a new team and put it together.

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    I love it, I'll take Appel over Fisher every day.


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    It's a good trade regardless though the switch from Fisher to Appel is negligible if any difference at all. Hopefully Appel will benefit from a change of scenery and begin to flash even half of his potential. Going to miss Giles though as they could have had a good-great closer cost controlled for 5 years, but doesn't matter if you don't fix the rotation. Going to be interesting to see how they fix the bullpen now as it is a complete mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    It's funny how much everyone is overreacting to this swap of Appel/Fisher. Not really a big shift in value - if any!
    While the overreaction comes from Appel having the much stronger name recognition, I also think he is still the superior prospect at this point too. Appel always seemed doomed to not reach his potential in Houston, given the negatively surrounding that situation. Hopefully with the change of scenario, Appel can turn into a solid rotation piece for us because the stuff is still there. Also, I didn't like including Jonathan Arauz in the deal. I was excited to see what his second season as a pro brought...I think he has legit upside.
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    The BA guys really like Arauz. They think he's Jose Guillen. Also saw him compared to Galvis with a better bat. I always take comparisons to guys within the same system with a grain of salt. There's something suspiciously coincidental about that...
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