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    Jim Brown

    There was a Jim Brown sighting at Game 3 of the Cavs v Warriors NBA finals. Jim Brown, in my research, is the greatest Football player to ever lace up. This thread takes a closer look at the legend.

    *Jim Brown stats adjusted for 16-game seasons. Also receptions are adjusted to reflect more modern passing levels.

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    Year	Name	        Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Targets	Yds	TD	YScm
    1957	Jim Brown	295	1407	14	37	68	138	2	1545
    1958	Jim Brown	351	2136	24	39	72	337	2	2473
    1959	Jim Brown	385	1850	19	52	96	411	1	2261
    1960	Jim Brown	285	1749	13	41	76	441	4	2190
    1961	Jim Brown	348	1680	10	85	136	850	4	2530
    1962	Jim Brown	263	1206	16	87	138	958	9	2164
    1963	Jim Brown	331	2222	14	44	71	496	6	2718
    1964	Jim Brown	349	1861	8	72	115	698	5	2559
    1965	Jim Brown	343	1901	20	69	109	670	9	2571
    									
    Career	Jim Brown	2950	16012	138	526	881	4999	42	21011




    *Playoff stats included per season
    *Running Back Average Value level set @2014, 4% of team value
    *Volume Factor = (((Avg. Number of team Reg/PS games per season*(20+3))/(Avg. Number of team Reg/PS games per season * 4%))
    RB Volume Threshold = 20 carries, 3 receptions per game
    *Running Back Rate = ((Yscrm+20*(Rush TD+Rec TD)-45*(FUM*.5)))/(RushATT+Rec)
    Wins Above Average = ((Volume Factor*(Running Back Rate^2))/Avg. Number of team Reg/PS games per season)-(Avg. Number of team Reg/PS games per season * 4%)


    The RB WAA should be compatible to QB WAA.
    Last edited by Lionel20; 01-02-2018 at 11:44 PM.

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    Let's get out our calculators and then make up random numbers so we can watch football boys.

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    Dude this formating sucks Ernest Byner dick

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    "Jim Brown, in my research" is where the reading should stop. Surprised I got that far. His adjusted stats must be off the charts since you like him.
    Time for some hootenanny.

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    Has anyone ever seen Lionel20 and CCRider post in the same thread?

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    Instead of trolling him we should just stop posting about his stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    Has anyone ever seen Lionel20 and CCRider post in the same thread?
    Not the same guy. Lionel does a ton of work that no one cares about, CC posts ridiculous **** and then expects everyone one else to do all the heavy lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Instead of trolling him we should just stop posting about his stuff
    Smart guy.

    Isn't it obvious that I get off to this stuff even if nobody else does.

    I love debate, and constructive criticism, but mostly I love computing these metrics.

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    ^ you clearly love doing math

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel20 View Post
    I love debate, and constructive criticism
    Once again, your hypothesis is not supported by empirical observations.

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    Agree 100% with the thought. Jim Brown is the best ever. Not sure the best way to translate numbers.. Teams ran for a lot then bit it was lots of committees. There were years Jim Brown would double up the next closest back in yard and triple them up in TDS. Seeing that the average #2 today is a 1300-1600 yard back.. doubling that up woild be even more impressive than your number translation shows. I am guessing you are using production by team to compare him against when production vs peers might be another option that would truly show his impact.

    Say Brown runs for 15 tds vs. the league average that year for a team was running for 15 td's. And today the average was 25. Maybe you count him as 25. BUT if the average starter then ran for 5 and the average one today was 20... then he ran for 3 times what the average starter did which is hugely impressive, which today would be like seeing a guy run for 60 (numbers blown up to make easier to see).

    But I agree on your result. The guy was insane. Let's just say he rumored a comeback like 15 years after he retired and it didn't sound as absurd as it does thinking of it today.


    I've said before. Had Jim Brown never played football, we would be talking about Jim Taylor as arguably the best back ever. Instead he was a peer of Brown's and fell so far behind he is usually nowhere to be found on greatest ever lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsnake View Post
    ...Seeing that the average #2 today is a 1300-1600 yard back...
    What? I am not sure the average 1 averages that from scrimmage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    What? I am not sure the average 1 averages that from scrimmage.
    That would be the rushing yards of the #2 back the past 5 or so years... 4 had 1300 yards 1 had 1600 I believe.

    just saying a #1 back with consistently getting 2000 yards when the #2 has 500 is more impressive possibly than 2000 yards when #2 consistently has 1800. There's of course a lot more that can go into that but hard to ignore it too....

    Let's say sack numbers for teams stayed the same but teams rotated linemen more and Watt last year had his same season but was the only guy with double digit sacks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    What? I am not sure the average 1 averages that from scrimmage.
    Number two leading rusher. Not number two as in back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Number two leading rusher. Not number two as in back up.
    oh...

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