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    Which Team wins an All-Time Tournament? 1st Round

    Put the 16 best teams in NBA History in a tournament, who comes out on top? Every series is best of 7 with one caveat, the rules we play under depend on who has home court for that given game. I've limited the number of teams/cores as to prevent an overflow of the same combinations. Seeding/HCA has been given to teams that have the best winning% in NBA history. The remaining 8 teams were chosen at my discretion but I've made an attempt to keep them within era range.


    Only finish the first round plz






    1. 96/97 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Rodman)
    vs
    16 91/92 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Grant)

    (Notes: Pit them vs each other, if for nothing else but to prevent them from meeting in a predictable Finals but also to add some variety to the rest of the comp.)



    2. 72 Lakers (Wilt-West-Goodrich)
    vs
    15. 13 Heat (Bron-Wade-Bosh)



    3. 67 Sixers (Wilt-Walker-Greer)
    vs
    14. 65 Celtics (Russell-Jones-Hondo)



    4. 86 Celtics (Bird-McHale-Parish)
    vs
    13. 07 Spurs (Duncan-TP-Manu)



    5. 01 Lakers (Shaq-Kobe-Fisher)
    vs
    12. 95 Rockets (Hakeem-Drexler-Horry)

    (Notes: 01 Lakers are here instead of 00 Lakers for one simple reason, they were flat out better.)




    6. 71 Bucks (KAJ-"O"-Dandridge)
    vs
    11. 87 Lakers (Magic-Worthy-KAJ)



    7. 08 Celtics (KG-Pierce-Allen)
    vs
    10. 09 Lakers (Kobe-Pau-Odom)



    8. 83 Sixers (Moses-Cheeks-Julius)
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    9. 70 Knicks (Reed-Frazier-DeBusschere)

    "It’s absolutely ludicrous” (to judge players based on whether they’ve won a title.)

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    2001 lakers win every round. Only team I would put up against them are the 2000 lakers.

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    The '13 Heat are on here but not the '14 Spurs? Was there a poll or something, because the '14 Spurs are better than a lot of these teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Put the 16 best teams in NBA History in a tournament, who comes out on top? Every series is best of 7 with one caveat, the rules we play under depend on who has home court for that given game. I've limited the number of teams/cores as to prevent an overflow of the same combinations. Seeding/HCA has been given to teams that have the best winning% in NBA history. The remaining 8 teams were chosen at my discretion but I've made an attempt to keep them within era range.


    Only finish the first round plz






    1. 96/97 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Rodman)
    vs
    16 91/92 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Grant)

    (Notes: Pit them vs each other, if for nothing else but to prevent them from meeting in a predictable Finals but also to add some variety to the rest of the comp.)



    2. 72 Lakers (Wilt-West-Goodrich)
    vs
    15. 13 Heat (Bron-Wade-Bosh)



    3. 67 Sixers (Wilt-Walker-Greer)
    vs
    14. 65 Celtics (Russell-Jones-Hondo)



    4. 86 Celtics (Bird-McHale-Parish)
    vs
    13. 07 Spurs (Duncan-TP-Manu)



    5. 01 Lakers (Shaq-Kobe-Fisher)
    vs
    12. 95 Rockets (Hakeem-Drexler-Horry)

    (Notes: 01 Lakers are here instead of 00 Lakers for one simple reason, they were flat out better.)




    6. 71 Bucks (KAJ-"O"-Dandridge)
    vs
    11. 87 Lakers (Magic-Worthy-KAJ)



    7. 08 Celtics (KG-Pierce-Allen)
    vs
    10. 09 Lakers (Kobe-Pau-Odom)



    8. 83 Sixers (Moses-Cheeks-Julius)
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    9. 70 Knicks (Reed-Frazier-DeBusschere)
    Shouldn't it be the 95-96 Bulls?

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    1. 96/97 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Rodman)
    15. 13 Heat (Bron-Wade-Bosh)
    3. 67 Sixers (Wilt-Walker-Greer)
    4. 86 Celtics (Bird-McHale-Parish)
    5. 01 Lakers (Shaq-Kobe-Fisher)
    11. 87 Lakers (Magic-Worthy-KAJ)
    7. 08 Celtics (KG-Pierce-Allen)
    9. 70 Knicks (Reed-Frazier-DeBusschere)


    These are my winners. I'm disappointed that the 2014 Spurs were left off as well.

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    For me:

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    8

    But back to Heat '13: they had the same number of losses as the '14 Spurs in the markedly weaker conference. The Spurs scored 106.3 (.491/.409/.767) and held opponents to 97.0 (.445/.350/.769) while out-rebounded opponents by 2 per game. They did this by going through the gauntlet in the West, defeating numerous top 75 all-time players.

    As a team the Heat scored 97.1 (.468/.381/.766) and held opponents to 90.7 (.436/.353/.732) while getting out-rebounded for the playoffs (38.1 per game to opponents' 40.3). They did this by going through the Bucks, Rose-less Bulls, and having the Pacers take them to 7 in a nail-biter series (the same Pacers that allegedly improved and had the Horford-less Hawks take them to 7).

    I don't really think the '13 Heat were an all-time team. But at the very least, they don't hold a candle to the '14 Spurs.

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    Spurs were included already, didn't want too many of the same core players, unless you guys are saying these past Spurs were the best we've seen

    "It’s absolutely ludicrous” (to judge players based on whether they’ve won a title.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Spurs were included already, didn't want too many of the same core players, unless you guys are saying these past Spurs were the best we've seen
    Hmm that's be a decent thread topic: which Spurs championship team was best. 07 only lost 4 games, but the NBA was weaker then (even if the West was still pretty tough) and the main competition they had was decided by Stern (the Suns series). That was a good team but I think '14 was better. I think '14 is one of 5 best teams I've ever seen step on the court, and could very well be the best.

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    2014 Spurs better than 2007 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashBolt View Post
    2014 Spurs better than 2007 for me.
    Big 3 at their peak in my year. Is Kawhi that much of a game changer from Bruce Bowen?

    "It’s absolutely ludicrous” (to judge players based on whether they’ve won a title.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Big 3 at their peak in my year. Is Kawhi that much of a game changer from Bruce Bowen?
    That and 2014 Spurs were just a better group cohesively. That roster makes the difference for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    Hmm that's be a decent thread topic: which Spurs championship team was best. 07 only lost 4 games, but the NBA was weaker then (even if the West was still pretty tough) and the main competition they had was decided by Stern (the Suns series). That was a good team but I think '14 was better. I think '14 is one of 5 best teams I've ever seen step on the court, and could very well be the best.
    07 Spurs were still an elite defensive team, the Big-3 were at their peaks. This team posted the highest SRS in their history, which is suppose to at least account for the differences in strength of schedule. The recent champs are without a doubt deeper, thats why they won more regular season games. Its a toss up due to Kawhi tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    1. 96/97 Bulls (MJ-Pippen-Rodman)
    15. 13 Heat (Bron-Wade-Bosh)
    3. 67 Sixers (Wilt-Walker-Greer)
    4. 86 Celtics (Bird-McHale-Parish)
    5. 01 Lakers (Shaq-Kobe-Fisher)
    11. 87 Lakers (Magic-Worthy-KAJ)
    7. 08 Celtics (KG-Pierce-Allen)
    9. 70 Knicks (Reed-Frazier-DeBusschere)


    These are my winners. I'm disappointed that the 2014 Spurs were left off as well.
    Would those Spurs have won their matchup instead of their 07 counterparts. What about 05?

    Any particular reasons why you had the lower seed win? I had a few in mind myself, just wondering why you came to those conclusions


    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    Shouldn't it be the 95-96 Bulls?
    It is, I clustered them together. 95-96 AND 96-97



    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    For me:

    1
    2
    14
    4
    12
    11
    7
    8

    But back to Heat '13: they had the same number of losses as the '14 Spurs in the markedly weaker conference. The Spurs scored 106.3 (.491/.409/.767) and held opponents to 97.0 (.445/.350/.769) while out-rebounded opponents by 2 per game. They did this by going through the gauntlet in the West, defeating numerous top 75 all-time players.

    As a team the Heat scored 97.1 (.468/.381/.766) and held opponents to 90.7 (.436/.353/.732) while getting out-rebounded for the playoffs (38.1 per game to opponents' 40.3). They did this by going through the Bucks, Rose-less Bulls, and having the Pacers take them to 7 in a nail-biter series (the same Pacers that allegedly improved and had the Horford-less Hawks take them to 7).

    I don't really think the '13 Heat were an all-time team. But at the very least, they don't hold a candle to the '14 Spurs.
    I could have easily replaced the Heat with yet another Spurs team, or even another Detroit/NY team, but I threw them in last minute for diversities sake. I will say the Heat are a tragedy, only because we only saw a glimpse of their dominance in that winning streak, Wade's health was too inconsistent from that point forward for them to dominate their playoff comp.

    "It’s absolutely ludicrous” (to judge players based on whether they’ve won a title.)

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    1)Bulls 1996

    2)Lakers 1972

    3)Celtics 1965

    4) Celtics 1986

    5) Rockets 1995

    6) Lakers 1987

    7) Celtics 2008 (probably the toughest matchup of them all)

    8) Sixers 1983 (best championship team ever probably)
    Last edited by NYKalltheway; 08-23-2014 at 05:01 PM.

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