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    its 2014 All players in their prime since 1950 (who is your top 10)

    take every player in history put them on a basketball court in todays world of competition. All of these players are in their best career year (meaning they're at the peak of their prime.. I'm not talking about their stats for that year.). also this is not a long term top 10 list, this is not career resume list
    who is the best?
    also please only use names of players you know well, not vague ideas of bill russell etc

    heres mine

    1a shaq
    1b kareem (based on maybe like 15 games)
    1c jordan
    4a lebron
    4b kobe
    6 magic
    7 hakeem
    8 bird
    9 duncan
    10 wade

    hm: kg, tmac, durant, david robinson, chuck
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    1. 1991 Jordan
    2. 1971 Kareem
    3. 1994 Olajuwon
    4. 2000 Shaq/2013 Lebron
    6. 1967 Wilt
    7. 1965 Russell
    8. 1987 Magic
    9. 1986 Bird
    10. 2003 Duncan

    --------- RS PER, WS48, --------- PER, WS48 playoffs
    Jordan 91: 31.7, 0.32 -----------32.0, 0.33 (17 playoff game, title)
    KAJ 1971: 29.0, 0.33, -----------25.0, 0.27 (14 playoff games, title)
    Shaq 2000: 30.6, 0.28, --------- 30.5, 0.22 (23 playoff games, title)
    Wilt 1967: 26.5, .285------------25.3, 0.25 (15 playoff games, title)
    Duncan 2003: 26.9, 0.248------------28.4, 0.279 (24 playoff games, title)
    Magic 1987: 27.0, 0.263-------------26.2, 0.265 (18 playoff games, title)
    Bird 1986: 25.6, 0.244--------------23.9, 0.263 (23 playoff games, title)
    Moses Malone 1983: 25.1, 0.248 -----25.7, 0.260 (13 playoff games, title)
    Lebron James 2012:30.7, 0.298-------30.3, 0.284 (23 playoff games, title)
    Dwyane Wade 2006: 27.6, 0.239-------26.9, 0.240 (23 playoff games, title)
    Julius Erving 1976: 28.7, 0.262-----32.0, 0.321 (13 playoff games, title) - ABA
    Lebron James 2013: 31.6, 0.322 -----28.1, 0.260 (23 playoff games, title)

    Regarding MJ 1991 vs Shaq 2000


    MJ in the season = 20.30 Win Shares. Shaq = 18.65
    MJ in the season = 31.63 PER, Shaq = 30.65


    MJ in the playoffs = 4.77 Win Share, Shaq = 4.67
    MJ in the playoffs = 32.04 PER, Shaq = 30.45


    MJ in the finals = 31.5 PER and Shaq = 31.1


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-8

    MJ had over a 31.5 PER in the season, playoffs and finals in 1991
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    Kobe over Lebron imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsOnTheWheel View Post
    Kobe over Lebron imo
    i wouldn't argue either way. i was close to picking kobe over him too

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    Wow, I know some basketball history, but I can only remember as far back as the late 80's (watching basketball) I'd really hate using statistical rankings and championships to make this list, so I am just going with personal fav's. If I rank anyone too high or too low? its nothing personal, just my own opinion.

    1.Michael Jordan
    2.Wilt Chamberlain
    3.Shaquille Oneal
    4.Kareem Abdul Jabbar
    5.Lebron James
    6.Charles Barkley
    7.Tim Duncan
    8.Kobe Bryant
    9.Magic Johnson
    10.Hakeem Olajuwon

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    1. 1991 Jordan
    2. 1971 Kareem
    3. 1994 Olajuwon
    4. 2000 Shaq/2013 Lebron
    6. 1967 Wilt
    7. 1965 Russell
    8. 1987 Magic
    9. 1986 Bird
    10. 2003 Duncan

    --------- RS PER, WS48, --------- PER, WS48 playoffs
    Jordan 91: 31.7, 0.32 -----------32.0, 0.33 (17 playoff game, title)
    KAJ 1971: 29.0, 0.33, -----------25.0, 0.27 (14 playoff games, title)
    Shaq 2000: 30.6, 0.28, --------- 30.5, 0.22 (23 playoff games, title)
    Wilt 1967: 26.5, .285------------25.3, 0.25 (15 playoff games, title)
    Duncan 2003: 26.9, 0.248------------28.4, 0.279 (24 playoff games, title)
    Magic 1987: 27.0, 0.263-------------26.2, 0.265 (18 playoff games, title)
    Bird 1986: 25.6, 0.244--------------23.9, 0.263 (23 playoff games, title)
    Moses Malone 1983: 25.1, 0.248 -----25.7, 0.260 (13 playoff games, title)
    Lebron James 2012:30.7, 0.298-------30.3, 0.284 (23 playoff games, title)
    Dwyane Wade 2006: 27.6, 0.239-------26.9, 0.240 (23 playoff games, title)
    Julius Erving 1976: 28.7, 0.262-----32.0, 0.321 (13 playoff games, title) - ABA
    Lebron James 2013: 31.6, 0.322 -----28.1, 0.260 (23 playoff games, title)

    Regarding MJ 1991 vs Shaq 2000


    MJ in the season = 20.30 Win Shares. Shaq = 18.65
    MJ in the season = 31.63 PER, Shaq = 30.65


    MJ in the playoffs = 4.77 Win Share, Shaq = 4.67
    MJ in the playoffs = 32.04 PER, Shaq = 30.45


    MJ in the finals = 31.5 PER and Shaq = 31.1


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-8

    MJ had over a 31.5 PER in the season, playoffs and finals in 1991
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    just their prime?

    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Magic Johnson
    3. Larry Bird
    4. Shaquille O'Neal
    5. Hakeem Olajuwon
    6. Moses Malone
    7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    8. Oscar Robertson
    9. Jerry West
    10. Elgin Baylor
    ---------------
    11. Charles Barkley
    12. Julius Erving

    early Celtics and Wilt are a question mark

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    Jordan, Magic, Wilt, Kareem, Lebron, Olajuwon, Russel, Shaq, Duncan, Dr. J
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    If I'm using these 10 to build a team

    Magic/Lebron
    Jordan/Kobe
    Pippen/Rodman
    Duncan/Dirk
    Shaq/Hakeem
    LA

    Listen to Black Sabbath.

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    In there prime: These players can completely take over a playoff series or lead there team to a championship, while in their prime and healthy.

    In short, impose their well.

    1. Shaq
    2. Jordan
    3. Dr J
    4. Wilt
    5. Lbj (when he isn't taking orders)
    6. Magic
    7. The Dream
    8. Duncan
    9. Wade
    10. Kobe, KD or Kareem
    Last edited by Dade County; 08-20-2014 at 11:22 AM.



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    As a rookie Micheal Beasley averaged 13.9pts per game on .472 shooting. Do you know how many times Kobe Bryant or Tracy Mcgrady shot at that percent or better? Never in there whole careers. If Beas can be what he was when he was a rookie (he won't hell be better) then the heat are coming away with another steal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade County View Post
    In there prime: These players can completely take over a playoff series or lead there team to a championship, while in their prime and healthy.

    In short, impose their well.

    1. Shaq
    2. Jordan
    3. Dr J
    4. Wilt
    5. Lbj (when he isn't taking orders)
    6. Magic
    7. The Dream
    8. Duncan
    9. Wade
    10. Kobe, KD or Kareem
    Can i hear your crazy Lebron conspiracy theories? I like him and still am looking for a good chuckle right now.

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    Anybody who puts wade on their list is just a fan boy. Sad doesn't even belong I the top 20 all time. Making him top 10 is laughable

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    Prime players:
    Shaq
    Jordan
    Magic
    Kobe
    Duncan
    Hakeem
    Garnett
    Bird
    Barkley
    Stockton

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    Michael Jordan
    Wilt Chamberlain
    Kareem Abdul Jabbar
    Oscar Robertson
    LeBron James
    Shaq
    David Robinson
    Larry Bird
    Magic Johnson
    Mikan

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latinofire21 View Post
    Anybody who puts wade on their list is just a fan boy. Sad doesn't even belong I the top 20 all time. Making him top 10 is laughable
    Prime Wade? Not even considered for top 20? Okay. People forget that he played an overall better season than Lebron in 2008-09 yet the nba kept crowning their golden boy MVP year after year. Point is, is that prime Wade easily belongs in the discussion as far as top 20.

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