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    Blind taste test: which point guard would you rather have?

    Point guard X, or point guard Z?

    The are both playing on competitive playoff teams and both getting averaging 36 minutes a game, and both handling the overwhelming bulk of the ball handling duties when they are on the court.

    Here are their stats.


    POINT GUARD X (Age 20-28)

    Career averages
    Percentages FG%: .472 3PT%: .357 FT%: .857 TS%: 5.75

    PPG: 18.6 APG: 9.8 TO 2.4 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 2.4 RPG: 4.4 PF: 2.5

    PER36

    PPG: 18.4 APG: 9.8 TO 2.4 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 2.4 RPG: 4.3 PF: 2.4

    PER 100 Possesions:

    PPG: 27.2 APG: 14.5 TO 3.5 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 3.5 RPG: 6.4 PF: 3.6



    POINT GUARD Z (Age 20-32)

    Career averages

    Percentages FG%: .452 3PT%: .290 FT%: .759 TS%: 5.16

    PPG: 19.2 APG: 9.3 TO 3.8 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 1.9 RPG: 3.6 PF: 3.0

    PER36

    PPG: 19.1 APG: 9.2 TO 3.7 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 1.9 RPG: 3.5 PF: 3.0

    PER 100 Possesions:

    PPG: 25.7 APG: 12.4 TO 5.0 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 2.5 RPG: 4.7 PF: 4.1
    Last edited by JasonJohnHorn; 08-18-2014 at 04:12 PM.
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    Is one playing on a championship team? Those players sacrifice stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPURSFAN1 View Post
    Is one playing on a championship team? Those players sacrifice stats.
    The are both playing on competitive playoff teams and both getting averaging 36 minutes a game, and both handling the overwhelming bulk of the ball handling duties when they are on the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJohnHorn View Post
    The are both playing on competitive playoff teams and both getting averaging 36 minutes a game, and both handling the overwhelming bulk of the ball handling duties when they are on the court.
    Is one a 2 round bust and is the other one on a championship team?
    I pick tony parker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJohnHorn View Post
    Point guard X, or point guard Z?

    The are both playing on competitive playoff teams and both getting averaging 36 minutes a game, and both handling the overwhelming bulk of the ball handling duties when they are on the court.

    Here are their stats.


    POINT GUARD X (Age 20-28)

    Career averages
    Percentages FG%: .472 3PT%: .357 FT%: .857 TS%: 5.75

    PPG: 18.6 APG: 9.8 TO 2.4 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 2.4 RPG: 4.4 PF: 2.5

    PER36

    PPG: 18.4 APG: 9.8 TO 2.4 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 2.4 RPG: 4.3 PF: 2.4

    PER 100 Possesions:

    PPG: 27.2 APG: 14.5 TO 3.5 A/TO Ratio: 4.1 SPG: 3.5 RPG: 6.4 PF: 3.6



    POINT GUARD Z (Age 20-32)

    Career averages

    Percentages FG%: .452 3PT%: .290 FT%: .759 TS%: 5.16

    PPG: 19.2 APG: 9.3 TO 3.8 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 1.9 RPG: 3.6 PF: 3.0

    PER36

    PPG: 19.1 APG: 9.2 TO 3.7 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 1.9 RPG: 3.5 PF: 3.0

    PER 100 Possesions:

    PPG: 25.7 APG: 12.4 TO 5.0 A/TO Ratio: 2.4 SPG: 2.5 RPG: 4.7 PF: 4.1
    Which one won a championship or at least made a championship finals ?

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    Also tony played on slow paced teams. 25ppg is great on a 80ppg team while 25ppg might not be as good on a 100ppg team. That's just an example.

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    So do you think Derek Fisher is top three all time if rings count so much?

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    Magic Johnson and Chris Paul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixers247 View Post
    So do you think Derek Fisher is top three all time if rings count so much?
    No I don't. Apparently the lakers didn't think so either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savvy1803 View Post
    Which one won a championship or at least made a championship finals ?
    Neither player had a choice in how deep the teams they played with were, so I don't think it's fair to compare ring count, but both players have made their teams significantly better.

    Player X led a team from a .390 winning percentage to a .666 winning percentage in one year, and in two season helped them improve from 32 win to 56, but has not won a championship.

    Player Z has won a championship, but had a much deeper team that featured five current, past or future All-Stars (all near or in their prime), two rebounding champions, and two All-Defensive first team player and All-NBA players and a two time DPOY. Player X only has one other current All-Star on his team and no All-Defensive team players other than himself.
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    CP3 and Magic




    Boogie Cousins for MVP 2015

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    One beat Magic Johnson in an NBA Finals, the other lost to Westbrook in a second round

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJohnHorn View Post
    Neither player had a choice in how deep the teams they played with were, so I don't think it's fair to compare ring count, but both players have made their teams significantly better.

    Player X led a team from a .390 winning percentage to a .666 winning percentage in one year, and in two season helped them improve from 32 win to 56, but has not won a championship.

    Player Z has won a championship, but had a much deeper team that featured five current, past or future All-Stars (all near or in their prime), two rebounding champions, and two All-Defensive first team player and All-NBA players and a two time DPOY. Player X only has one other current All-Star on his team and no All-Defensive team players other than himself.
    Without knowing actual ages of players or injury and or previous health concerns Jason i would always lean towards the proven winner as he has taken himself and his stats to the highest level possible and won with them . I feel championship experience and the ability to actually do it does matter , others may feel differently and i'm cool with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemptostay View Post
    One beat Magic Johnson in an NBA Finals, the other lost to Westbrook in a second round
    Cherry pop'ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemptostay View Post
    One beat Magic Johnson in an NBA Finals, the other lost to Westbrook in a second round
    exactly

    anyone saying cp3 could hop on the pistons and win those titles is being foolish
    Isiah was the engine for that team and its playing style

    I don't think you could even throw in Magic and Stockton and get the same result
    the pistons played such a unique brand of basketball that Isiah was really the only PG you could could mold into that style

    also CP3 now has no more excuses...
    first it was team but he had the coach of the year in Scott
    then it was team and the coach
    then he got dealt to the Clippers and his team was almost there but VDN was awful(as a Bulls fan, pretty justifiable)
    now he has the coach, the team and heck even a new owner.. lets see if he can leave the 2nd round, I'm not even saying win the title, just give me something Westbrook, Rose, Williams, Parker and Nash have all done.
    all the greats have done it with no excuses, they found a way, that's what makes them great. they won, the ultimate end goal of all these stats.

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