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    Can a team contend if they're really good on offense but horrible on defense?

    I personally cannot recall the last time a team that was below average on defense, coming away with a title, or the very least, a 2nd round exit.

    To those who are stats experts can you provide any instance where a good offensive team was able to win at least a 1st rounder series games, but was below average on defense( bottom 20s)
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    2013-2014 Houston Rockets.

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    Houston was never a contender, they couldnt make it out of the 1st round..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedTofuz View Post
    Houston was never a contender, they couldnt make it out of the 1st round..
    OP said "To those who are stats experts can you provide any instance where a good offensive team was able to win 50 games, but was below average on defense( bottom 20s) "

    Houston won 54, and I believe was around 23rd overall in D.

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    Oh sorry, I should edit that a bit.
    That surprises me knowing they have dwight.
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    If you are horrible on D you won't do much period.

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    Rockets are a prime example that a title cannot be won with no D

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    I think the OP is now trying too hard to prove to Knick fans that they will not be successful with a great offense and poor defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic98 View Post
    I think the OP is now trying too hard to prove to Knick fans that they will not be successful with a great offense and poor defense.
    it's a moot point tho we haven't seen our team play 1 game yet nobody even knows if we will have a good or bad offense or defense



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    WTF? The Rockets were like the 11th ranked D last year, not 23rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86 View Post
    WTF? The Rockets were like the 11th ranked D last year, not 23rd.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/te...PointsOpponent


    Is what I was going by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InRoseWeTrust View Post
    Worthless stat. Go by team defensive efficiency. Points of opponent means nothing. It doesn't factor in pace/possessions. Rockets play fast.. meaning they often speed opponents up= more possessions for the opposing team, which = worse dppg.

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    What about those Expolsive Suns teams, weren't they middle of pack defensively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86 View Post
    Worthless stat. Go by team defensive efficiency. Points of opponent means nothing. It doesn't factor in pace/possessions. Rockets play fast.. meaning they often speed opponents up= more possessions for the opposing team, which = worse dppg.
    I know that doesn't take pace into account, but at the end of the day you still need to stop points from going up on the board. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Houston was a below average defensive team...the playoffs certainly proved as much.

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    It is unreasonable to say Houston was below average on D. Remember the Blazers were an offensive powerhouse last season (2nd ranked offense after Clippers, 1st best shooting team). For Houston too struggle on D vs a team that swings the ball and shoots like that when they have mediocre wing defenders outside of Beverley isn't a shock, nor does it make them bad. Houston was an ABOVE average defensive team and nearly top 10.

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