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    NFL All-Time Redraft Voting (SUPERBOWL!): #1 Steelers vs. #2 Triangles

    Pittsburgh Steelers
    Offensive Starters

    QB: John Elway(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, #16 on TSN Top 100 of All Time, #23 on NFL Network's Top 100 of All Time, 1987 MVP, 1992 Walter Payton Man of the Year, 1998 Super Bowl MVP, 1990s All Decade 1st Team, 9-time Pro Bowler, 35 career 4th Quarter comebacks demonstrate his capabilities in the clutch)
    RB: Barry Sanders(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, #12 on TSN Top 100 of All Time, #17 on NFL Network's Top 100 of All Time, 1989 Offensive ROY, 1991 MVP, 1994 Offensive POY, 1997 MVP & Offensive Player of the Year, 1990s All Decade 1st Team, 10-time Pro Bowler in 10 seasons played, 6-time 1st Team All Pro, Career 5.0 yards per carry)
    FB: Roger Craig(1988 AP Offensive Player of the Year, 1980s All Decade Team, 1st Player ever with 1000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in the same season, 4-time Pro Bowler, 1-time 1st Team All Pro, 2010 HOF Finalist, 13100 career yards from scrimmage, 73 career TDs)
    FL: Isaac Bruce(4-time Pro Bowler, 7th in career receptions with 1024, 4th in career receiving yards with 15208, 10th in career receiving TDs with 91)
    LT: Cal Hubbard(Inaugural Class Hall of Fame, NFL 50th Anniversary All Time Offensive Tackle, NFL All Time Two-Way Team, 1920s All Decade Team, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Awesome combination of size -- 6'2", 250# in the '20s -- and speed - ran 100 yards in 11 seconds, Per HOF site "The addition of big Cal made a good Giants defense great", as a LB for the Giants)
    LG: Larry Allen(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, #95 on NFL Network's Top 100 of All Time, 1990s All Decade 2nd Team, 2000s All Decade 2nd Team, '96 & '97 NFLPA NFC Offensive Lineman of the Year, '97 NFL Alumni NFL Offensive Lineman of the Year, 11-time Pro Bowler, 6-time 1st Team All Pro)
    C: Jim Langer(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, 1970s All Decade 1st Team, 6-time Pro Bowler, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Per HOF site: "Hard working and quick, Langer was a compact, low-driving blocker who had the strength to stymie the bigger defensive linemen")
    RG: Bud McFadin(5-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Two-Way player that excelled as an offensive and defensive lineman)
    RT: Wilbur "Pete" Henry(Inaugural Class Hall of Fame, NFL All Time Two-Way Team, 1920s All Decade Team, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Per HOF website "Largest player of his time", "Had the swift reflexes of a man-eating tiger", Set NFL mark for longest punt(94 yards) )
    TE: Tony Gonzalez(Future 1st Ballot Hall of Famer, #45 on NFL Network's Top 100 of All Time, 2nd on Career receptions list with 1325, 5th in Career receiving yards list with 15127, 6th in Career receiving TD list with 111, 2000s All Decade 1st Team, 14-time Pro Bowler, 6-time 1st Team All Pro)
    SE: Rod Smith(8 career 1000 yard seasons, 3-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 2nd Team All Pro, 22nd in career receptions with 849, 26th in career receiving yards with 11389, 36th in career receiving TDs 68, In 2 seasons as a starter playing with Elway at QB Smith compiled 156 receptions for 2402 yards and 18 TDs)

    Offensive Reserves

    Back-up QB: Bob Waterfield(3rd Ballot Hall of Famer, 1945 Rookie of the Year and MVP, 1940s All Decade Team, 2-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Played safety his first four seasons -- 20 career interceptions and Don Hutson called him "the hardest safety man I ever had to evade on a pass pattern")
    RB2: Hugh "The King" McElhenny(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, SI All Century Team, 1952 NFL Rookie of the Year, 1958 Pro Bowl MVP, 1950s All Decade Team, 6-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro, NFL Network's #4 Most Elusive Runner of All Time, Scored a 40 yard TD on his first professional play, Career 4.7 yards per carry)
    3rd WR/FL: Gary Clark(Career avgs of 63 rec. for 988 yards and 6 TDs per season, Despite diminutive size Clark was unafraid to go over the middle and was a solid run blocker, Currently Top 50 all time in career receptions, receiving yards and receiving TDs, 4-time Pro Bowler, 1-time 1st Team All Pro)
    SE/4th WR: Mac Speedie(2-time Hall of Fame Finalist, 1940s All Decade Team, 2-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Left NFL for CFL as 2nd in career receptions and receiving yards behind only Don Hutson, 4-time leader in receptions and 2-time receiving yards leader in 7 year career, 349 receptions for 5602 yards in a mere 86 career games)
    Back-up OG: Buckets Goldenberg(1930s All Decade Team, Enables versatility with Larry Allen or Pete Henry to cover for injuries or stack line as extra OT)

    Defensive Starters

    LDE: Harvey "Too Mean" Martin(1977 AP DPOY, 1970s All Decade Team, 1977 Super Bowl Co-MVP with Randy White, 4-time Pro Bowler, 1-time 1st Team All Pro, Unofficial 114 career sacks, Unofficial 23 sacks in 1977)
    LDT: Dan "Danimal" Hampton(Hall of Famer, 1980s All Decade 1st Team, 4-time Pro Bowler, 1-time 1st Team All Pro, Posted double-digit sack seasons as both DE and DT, 1 of 3 key elite players in the amazing '85 Bears' Defense which allowed a mere 198 points over the whole season, Art Donovan called Hampton "the closest thing to Gino Marchetti I've ever seen", Unofficial 82 career sacks)
    RDT: Randy "Manster" White(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, #51 on TSN Top 100 of All Time, #62 on NFL Network's Top 100 of All Time, 1977 Super Bowl Co-MVP with Harvey Martin, 1980s All Decade 1st Team, 9-time Pro Bowler, 7-time 1st Team All Pro, Unofficial 111 career sacks)
    RDE: Jared Allen(5-time Pro Bowler, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, 12th in career sacks with 128.5, 2nd-highest single-season sack total in NFL history with 22 in 2011, 2007 NFL Alumni Pass Rusher of the Year, 2009 NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year)
    LLB: Maxie Baughan(1960s All Decade 1st Team, 9-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro)
    MLB: Sherrill "Psycho" Headrick(PFR 1960s All Decade 1st Team, 4-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Per SI Coach Hank Stram said Headrick "has the highest pain threshold of any athlete I ever saw", Headrick played through a broken neck amongst other injuries)
    RLB: "Dr. Doom" Robert Brazile(1975 AP Defensive Rookie of the Year, 1970s All Decade Team, 7-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro, Popularized the pass rushing LB position in a 3-4 before LT came along, All-around LB that excelled against the run and in coverage)
    LCB: Jimmy Johnson(Hall of Famer, SI All Century Team, 1970s All Decade 1st Team, 5-time Pro Bowler, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Per HOF site "Recognized as one of the best man-to-man defenders in history, Johnson's reputation was so great that opposition quarterbacks threw only rarely into his defensive territory", 47 career INTs)
    FS: Willie Wood(Hall of Famer, SI All Century Team, 8-time Pro Bowler, 5-time 1st Team All Pro, 1960s All Decade Team, Per SI -- "a deep patroller with tremendous instincts", 48 career INTs)
    SS: Bob Waterfield(3rd Ballot Hall of Famer, 1945 Rookie of the Year and MVP, 1940s All Decade Team, 2-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Played safety his first four seasons -- 20 career interceptions and Don Hutson called him "the hardest safety man I ever had to evade on a pass pattern")
    RCB: Dave Grayson(AFL All Time 1st Team, 6-time All Star, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, AFL career INT leader with 47 INTs -- 1 more in final season of his career in the NFL, 5 career INT return TDs)

    Defensive Reserves

    Back-up DT: Bud McFadin(5-time Pro Bowler, 3-time 1st Team All Pro, Two-Way player that excelled as an offensive and defensive lineman)
    Back-up LB: Cal Hubbard(Inaugural Class Hall of Fame, NFL 50th Anniversary All Time Offensive Tackle, NFL All Time Two-Way Team, 1920s All Decade Team, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Awesome combination of size -- 6'2", 250# in the '20s -- and speed - ran 100 yards in 11 seconds, Per HOF site "The addition of big Cal made a good Giants defense great", as a LB for the Giants)
    Big nickel safety: Spec Sanders(1-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro in 4 seasons played, Amazing athlete with a short career, In only season playing strictly defense(Safety in 1950) Sanders recorded 13 INTs)
    Nickelback: Jim "The Hatchet" David(PFR 1950s All Decade Team, 6-time Pro Bowler, 36 career INTs in 96 games, Per HOFer teammate Jack Christiansen "Jim was a first-rate all-around player... he is the only ballplayer I can remember who constantly gets up from a really bruising tackle with a smile on his face")

    Special Teams

    P: Wilbur "Pete" Henry(Inaugural Class Hall of Fame, NFL All Time Two-Way Team, 1920s All Decade Team, 4-time 1st Team All Pro, Per HOF website "Largest player of his time", "Had the swift reflexes of a man-eating tiger", Set NFL mark for longest punt(94 yards) )
    K: Nick Lowery(3-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro, Led the NFL in FG% 3 seasons and made FGs once, Retired as the all time leader in FG% at 80% and also had the most career made FGs, 1990 PFW Golden Toe Award, 1993 Byron Whizzer White Award)
    KR/PR: Hugh "The King" McElhenny(1st Ballot Hall of Famer, SI All Century Team, 1952 NFL Rookie of the Year, 1958 Pro Bowl MVP, 1950s All Decade Team, 6-time Pro Bowler, 2-time 1st Team All Pro, NFL Network's #4 Most Elusive Runner of All Time, Scored a 40 yard TD on his first professional play, Career 4.7 yards per carry)
    Dayton Triangles

    Offense
    QB: Jim Kelly (90s)* HOF, 1x First Team All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, 18th all-time in passing yards, 20th all-time in passing TDs, led 22 4th quarter comebacks, One of the first QBs to lead a professional hurry up offense
    HB: Eric Dickerson (80s)* HOF, 5x First Team All-Pro, 6x Pro Bowler, 7th all-time in rushing yards, 12th all-time in rushing TDs, 15th all-time in yards from scrimmage, 28th all-time in all-purpose yardage
    FB: Marion Motley (40s)* HOF, 2x First Team All-Pro, 1x Pro Bowler, Dr. Z called him the greatest player he had ever seen, unique size and strength for his era, the first great pass blocking back
    WB/HB: Bobby Mitchell
    Spell HB: Doak Walker
    Spell FB: Pug Manders (30s)

    SE: Charley Taylor (60s)* HOF, 1x First Team All-Pro, 8x Pro Bowler, 24th all-time in receiving TDs, 30th all-time in combined rushing/receiving TDs, unusually great YAC WR for his size
    FL/SL: Bobby Mitchell (60s)* HOF, 1x First Team All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowler, 48th all-time in receiving TDs, 47th all-time in combined rushing/receiving TDs, one of few players who has made the Pro Bowl as both a WR and RB
    FL: Del Shofner
    TE: Shannon Sharpe (90s)* HOF
    TE2: Jimmy Graham (00s)

    LT: Mike Kenn (80s)*
    LG: Randall McDaniel (90s)* HOF
    OC: George Svendsen (30s)*
    RG: Duane Putnam (50s)*
    RT: Rayfield Wright (70s)* HOF
    6th OL: Dick Huffman (40s)
    7th OL: Duke Slater (20s)


    Defense:
    RE: Len Ford (50s)*
    RDT: Bob Lilly (60s)*
    LDT: Richard Seymour (00s)*
    LE: Carl Eller (70s)*
    Spell DT: Dick Huffman

    WILL: Junior Seau (00s)*
    MIKE: Karl Mecklenburg (80s)*
    SAM: Marion Motley (40s)*
    Backup LB: Pug Manders

    1CB: Darrelle Revis (00s)*
    LS: Donnie Shell (80s)*
    RS: Paul Krause (70s)*
    2CB: Mark Haynes (80s)*
    3S/BN: Del Shofner
    NB: Don Paul (50s)
    DB: Eddie Tryon (20s)

    Special Teams:
    K: Doak Walker (50s)*
    P: Del Shofner (60s)*
    KR: Bobby Mitchell
    PR: Bobby Mitchell

    Offense:

    Our offense is the perfect blend of old and new. We have the horses in the backfield in Eric Dickerson and Marion Motley to run a smash-mouth offense that will pound the ball out of 2 and 3 back backfields (including Bobby Mitchell, more on him in a bit), primarily using the Wishbone and the Single-Wing formations in our 3 RB backfields. But most of these offenses had QBs that ran the ball well, right? Jim Kelly is known for his passing abilities, but is an able enough runner for this scheme. We don’t need Michael Vick or Randall Cunningham – in fact, we prefer a guy like Kelly that is going to ONLY run when the read is advantageous.

    Bobby Mitchell is the crux of the offense, though. He played at a Hall of Fame rate at both RB and WR. This allows us to use him as the wing in the backfield on one play, and motion him out to flanker or the slot on another play. This is going to be a really hard thing for base defenses to cope with. Add in an amazing YAC WR in Charley Taylor that has the height to get to jump balls, and one of the best pass catching TEs the league has ever seen in Shannon Sharpe, and teams are going to have a really hard time defending this passing game in their base defense. We also have Del Shofner and Jimmy Graham off the bench, providing us even more options should we go four or five receiver for a little bit (remember, Mitchell could line up in the backfield with four wide, and/or motion to a wide spot).

    If teams go nickel to combat that passing game, well, Dickerson and Motley are going to take over and crush them. These guys are two of the most talented runners the NFL has ever seen. To have them in the same backfield, keeping each other fresh, is going to be a major difficulty for any defense in this game. Simply put, there aren’t many defenses that even have a prayer of slowing down this offense.

    Defense:

    Our defense is led by our front four, featuring three current HoFers and another likely one in Richard Seymour. With the defensive line, the goal was versatility and ability to pressure the running and passing games. I think both of these were accomplished. Both of our ends were genuine athletic freaks in their age (especially Ford), and Lilly is quite possibly the best DT to ever play the game. Seymour made a career out of versatility, and we can have him and Lilly rotating between 1T and 3T to keep defenses on their toes.
    Junior Seau is the leader of our LB corps, but we think all three starters are very good players. Seau is going to be key in defending some of the best tight ends to ever play the game, and I am supremely confident that he can do this job. Mecklenburg may not be among the absolute greats at MLB, but he was a do-it-all guy that could rush the passer, play the run, play the pass…whatever was asked of him, he could do it pretty damn well. His pass rushing abilities along with those of Seau give us some options as far as blitzing to mix things up on the opposing offenses. Marion Motley will play the SAM spot for us, and while he is better known for his exploits at RB/FB, the Browns used him at LB in their key situations. There was an instance where he came in on the goal line, and stopped the opposing runner on four consecutive plays. Simply put, Motley was and is such a beast that he probably could have been a Hall of Famer at LB had he been put there full-time. In the “playoffs” of the All-Time Redraft, we feel like he is an asset starting at SAM for us.

    Continuing the theme of versatility, the goal (especially with our safeties) in the secondary was to get versatile players. With Shell and Krause (the best ballhawk in NFL history, quite possibly) we feel like we have two safeties that can do it all. While we’d prefer Krause playing most of a “free” kind of role and Shell assuming more of the “strong” duties, both guys are so well-rounded that we can blur the lines between defined free and strong positions, just giving opposing offenses one more thing to think about. At CB, Revis has been the premier shutdown CB of the past decade. We like him matching up with most anyone in this game. Mark Haynes is not a spectacular player, but he was a good starter for a long time, and had a three year stretch from 82-84 where he was quite dominant at CB.
    Neutral site game.
    On Cam Newton:

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    So it's official.

    This jerk off is going to be the first QB taken in the first round (or maybe the first 5) in the modern era to throw less than 300 passes at DI level. and he might go #1 overall.


    hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Nfl scouting is a joke.

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    I think I have a really good chance in this game. For one, if the Steelers have weaknesses, it's their passing game options and their linebackers. The fact that they would struggle to contain Shannon Sharpe with their LBs means they might have to play against my base offense with their nickel defense, and since Mitchell can flex out to the FL spot or play in the backfield at a HoF level, that would allow me to run right at them with Motley and Dickerson, an attack they surely couldn't stop consistently in their nickel sets.

    On the other hand, I suspect it wouldn't be an issue on the other side because we can have Seau trail Gonzalez if need be. Obviously a player like Tony G is going to get his fill, but I think Seau would stand a pretty good chance to slow him down. If I'm able to play my base D against his base O, I think we can slow down their running game, which the Steelers will need to get going early to open things up with their passing game.
    On Cam Newton:

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    So it's official.

    This jerk off is going to be the first QB taken in the first round (or maybe the first 5) in the modern era to throw less than 300 passes at DI level. and he might go #1 overall.


    hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Nfl scouting is a joke.

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    bump need moar votes
    On Cam Newton:

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    So it's official.

    This jerk off is going to be the first QB taken in the first round (or maybe the first 5) in the modern era to throw less than 300 passes at DI level. and he might go #1 overall.


    hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Nfl scouting is a joke.

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