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    Update: NBA draft lottery reform voted down, system stays as is

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...lottery-system

    The NBA is pushing toward changes to the draft lottery system by next season but is facing a strong objection from the Philadelphia 76ers, the franchise that could suffer the most from it, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

    Lottery-reform measures were introduced earlier this month at league meetings in Las Vegas, and the NBA Board of Governors could vote changes into place at its preseason meeting in October. Although there are several facets and the proposals haven't been finalized, the goal of commissioner Adam Silver is to balance out the lottery odds so the worst team or teams wouldn't have the highest chances of landing the top pick, sources said.

    Currently, the team with the worst record has a 25 percent chance of landing the top pick and the team with the fifth-worst record has an 8.8 percent chance of winning it. In a new format, the bottom five or six teams could have an equal chance.

    Although the NBA likely would not frame the changes this way, they could be seen as an anti-tanking measure, as teams with the worst records might not earn significantly higher lottery odds.

    The rough draft of this plan was met with opposition by 76ers management, which is in the midst of a multiseason rebuilding project that is dependent on a high pick next year. The 76ers, sources said, are hoping to get the NBA to delay the plan's implementation for at least a year because it would act as a de facto punishment while just playing by the rules that have been in place.

    The 76ers, however, may struggle to gain support from Silver or fellow teams for holding off on the changes. Philadelphia's planned sink to the bottom has caused a drag on revenues in one of the league's largest markets and has upset some other teams, sources said.

    The 76ers currently have more than $30 million in cap space, and they made two lottery picks last month in injured center Joel Embiid and European prospect Dario Saric who aren't expected to contribute much this season. They also have recently been in trade talks to move their highest-paid and longest-tenured player, forward Thaddeus Young.

    In short, the team is positioned to have one of the worst 2014-15 records in the league on the heels of a 19-63 season that included a 26-game losing streak. In addition to developing and identifying young players, the 76ers went into this plan believing it would give them a better chance at the highest picks in the 2015 draft, as well.

    It is something they have not made a secret, which is why the potential lottery changes have made the team feel like it is being targeted.

    "I think the season has been a huge success for us," 76ers owner Josh Harris said in April. "All these pieces are in place to make this an elite team that will compete consistently for the NBA championship. There are no shortcuts to it. Unfortunately, it takes a long time. I'm really happy with the progress."

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    We can't be the only team in the league fighting against these proposed changes. But it looks like the league is pushing hard to make them and I can see us being targeted/scapegoated because of how upset people were at our plan last year. This is bull ****.

    You can't make a drastic change like this and implement it in the next offseason. Teams strategize specifically based on the rules that are set forth for them. It's completely unfair to change those rules so suddenly when some teams have been following them with a longer term plan in mind. This offseason is essentially over and teams are done shaping their rosters for next year based on the current rule. If the NBA has to make a change like this, they should give you at least 2-3 years to prepare.

    Not the mention the proposal itself is a terrible idea.

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    @JakeLFischer: In fairness to all NBA teams, lottery reform shouldn't be official until all current owed draft picks change teams, like in wheel proposal.

    ^Another good point. Teams have already made future draft pick trades based on expectations of how good or bad the team will be. Not for so far into the future, but for next year for example. Changing the lotto rules so suddenly retroactively changes the value of picks that have already been traded, which is unfair

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    TRYING TO SCREW US!!!

    Lotto protected picks definitely get screwed up. Also, this effects how teams would have handled free agency. At the earliest this should go into effect 2016-17.

    In the meanwhile teams will super tank.
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    all good points. very rare to see something this major be changed in a year in any sport.

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    And honestly. Instead of trying to keep changing the lottery system with dumb patchwork proposals like this, the NBA needs to overhaul the system that almost forces teams to be bad in order to become good in the first place. Changing the lottery doesn't address this problem, the real problem. It won't stop tanking, it just hurts teams that have been legitimately strategizing based on the rules/system that have been set forth for them.

    To use a metaphor - changing the lottery only temporarily treats a symptom, it doesn't cure the disease...
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    I think curing the disease starts at the NCAA level. If kids were in school longer teams drafting high wouldn't miss so often. And more finished products would come into league. Teams shouldn't waste rookie contracts on developing players. By the time they hit free agency teams still aren't sure what they have. So it's a viscous cycle of wasting high picks on potential then wasting cap space on potential.
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    I actually like the lottery change proposal.... Just wish they'd wait til next season to implement it.


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    They have to.
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    I really hate this paragraph, how misconstrued the motives are -

    The 76ers currently have more than $30 million in cap space, and they made two lottery picks last month in injured center Joel Embiid and European prospect Dario Saric who aren't expected to contribute much this season. They also have recently been in trade talks to move their highest-paid and longest-tenured player, forward Thaddeus Young.
    It's called REBUILDING and smart management. We're not wasting away money just to be mediocre in the short term, and in the long term, the Sixers believe that Embiid and Saric provide the most upside. Yet they're making it seem like we are purposely not spending money, drafting injured players, and trading away Thad for the sole purpose of losing as many games as possible to help our odds in the lottery.

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    This is also ridiculous too -

    The 76ers, however, may struggle to gain support from Silver or fellow teams for holding off on the changes. Philadelphia's planned sink to the bottom has caused a drag on revenues in one of the league's largest markets and has upset some other teams, sources said.
    The Sixers continuously struggling to be an impact team and hovering around .500 does nothing for the league. The Sixers building a proper foundation so they can be a sustainable force in the NBA for years to come is GREAT for the league, even if it means sucking for 2 years. But as expected, no one has the foresight to see this, and they only care about the immediate bottom line for revenue sharing... If you want the Sixers to draw in more money for the league, for a long long time, then let them execute their plan. I mean, a simple middle-school level Return On Investment formula would project this...
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    If they think changing the lottery system this way is best for the league, then so be it. They should change it. But the urgency with which they're trying to push this through is clearly just reactionary to what the Sixers are doing and the unwarranted uproar it caused last season.

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    Isn't this something that has to be approved by the NBPA as well? This has just as much effect on them as it does us.

    Also this smells like the "we weren't smart enough to play the system like them so let's destroy it instead".

    Utter ********.
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    Currently, the team with the worst record has a 25 percent chance of landing the top pick and the team with the fifth-worst record has an 8.8 percent chance of winning it. In a new format, the bottom five or six teams could have an equal chance.
    What bothers me about this is really only the first pick is "lottoed" out and the rest fall into place after that. So if you want to go that deep make all three first picks up for grabs.

    Also agree with whoever said this screws teams that own other teams picks. Especially protected ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixer04fan View Post
    I really hate this paragraph, how misconstrued the motives are -



    It's called REBUILDING and smart management. We're not wasting away money just to be mediocre in the short term, and in the long term, the Sixers believe that Embiid and Saric provide the most upside. Yet they're making it seem like we are purposely not spending money, drafting injured players, and trading away Thad for the sole purpose of losing as many games as possible to help our odds in the lottery.
    That's not what they are suggesting. They aren't questioning our motives. Just point out why we are like "this is fricking bullnuts!"
    We are positioned to lose next year. If we were positioned to possibly slip into the playoffs, a 7th-10th in the east, we surely wouldn't be protesting.
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