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    Is it possible that Kershaw is now just entering his prime?

    Orioles fan here who has watched Kershaw from afar.

    I know it's kind of a strange question to ask about a 2 time Cy Young guy. He's now developed pinpoint control so what the hell do you do? What can you do against a guy who throws hard and can throw all his pitches wherever he wants?

    Is it possible that he's now ascending in Maddux, Pedro and Johnson territory?

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    I hope so.

    The real question is, can he continue to do what he is doing for another 3,000 innings.

    His dominance relative to his league is kind of crazy. He is going on his 4th season in a row of leading the Majors in era and whip. And potentially 3 Cys in 4 years and a 2nd place finish.

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    To be honest I don't think he has hit his prime yet. He turned 26 in March and I think he thinks he could still learn a few more things to improve on already being the best pitcher in the game. Ages 27-33 should be on hell of a run for him.
    Last edited by DigglinDickers; 07-27-2014 at 02:39 AM.

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    Yeah he's def just now reaching his prime.... He may get better which is crazy to think about.... God damn champ

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    How do you really improve on what he is doing this season though? Do you just decide to not have one bad start coming back from injury where you give up 9 runs? Lol. It's crazy to think that the runs he surrendered in that one start might equate to the amount of runs he has given up total over the past 2 months lol lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyourself View Post
    Orioles fan here who has watched Kershaw from afar.

    I know it's kind of a strange question to ask about a 2 time Cy Young guy. He's now developed pinpoint control so what the hell do you do? What can you do against a guy who throws hard and can throw all his pitches wherever he wants?




    Is it possible that he's now ascending in Maddux, Pedro and Johnson territory?

    Thats exactly what is happening. When he came into the league he was basically a hard thrower with a insane curveball but he was wildly effective. It was hard to dig in against him because he didn't have great control. Now he developed a slider some are comparing to Steve Carlton and his control is superb . He had that bad game in game 6 last year but it was on short rest and the Cardinals , some how do well against him.

    He sure owns the Giants though. Literally , his name on the deed, owns them and all their family members too. No pitcher has dominated one team so bad in 100 years!! He's a throwback player and is the best player in baseball at any position. Gotta love em. Unless your a Giants fan.

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    If he can stay healthy he could be a top 5/10 all time list.

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    He's without a doubt the best pitcher in baseball right now. If he stays healthy than he could be one of the best ever. He seems to have solved his biggest issue which was control and now made it into one of his strong points. This guy is unbelievably good.

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    Possible? Yes.

    2014 has been, by a substantial margin, Kershaw's best season.

    This article does a better job discussing why, than I ever can.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/clayt...-enemy-no-1-5/
    In short, because he's added a completely devastating slider.
    He's added 6 MPH of velocity to his slider since 2010
    His slider is in the lower third of the zone 82% of the time now - compared to about 55%-60% in earlier seasons



    How much better has Kershaw been in 2014 than in 2013 when he was the best pitcher in the National League?
    K%
    2013 26%
    2014 33%

    BB%
    2013 6%
    2014 4%

    GB%
    2013 46%
    2014 55%

    Striking out more batters, walking less and getting more ground balls.

    If this is Kershaw's new true talent level, then he is just entering his peak and he's like a closer pitching 7 innings a game

    2014 Kershaw: 33% K, 4% BB, 1.75 FIP, 1.93 xFIP, 1.90 SIERA
    2013 Kimbrel: 38% K, 8% BB, 1.93 FIP, 1.95 xFIP, 1.67 SIERA
    Mariano Rivera Career: 23% K, 6% BB, 2.76 FIP, 3.00 xFIP, 2.60 SIERA
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Possible? Yes.

    2014 has been, by a substantial margin, Kershaw's best season.

    This article does a better job discussing why, than I ever can.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/clayt...-enemy-no-1-5/
    In short, because he's added a completely devastating slider.
    He's added 6 MPH of velocity to his slider since 2010
    His slider is in the lower third of the zone 82% of the time now - compared to about 55%-60% in earlier seasons



    How much better has Kershaw been in 2014 than in 2013 when he was the best pitcher in the National League?
    K%
    2013 26%
    2014 33%

    BB%
    2013 6%
    2014 4%

    GB%
    2013 46%
    2014 55%

    Striking out more batters, walking less and getting more ground balls.

    If this is Kershaw's new true talent level, then he is just entering his peak and he's like a closer pitching 7 innings a game

    2014 Kershaw: 33% K, 4% BB, 1.75 FIP, 1.93 xFIP, 1.90 SIERA
    2013 Kimbrel: 38% K, 8% BB, 1.93 FIP, 1.95 xFIP, 1.67 SIERA
    Mariano Rivera Career: 23% K, 6% BB, 2.76 FIP, 3.00 xFIP, 2.60 SIERA
    Imagine what his K percentage would be if hitters didn't try to swing at the first strike they see? I know that helps him go deeper into games so I understand the tradeoff.

    Crazy numbers though.

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    We thought the same thing about Lincecum and Gooden.....and they both got worse around this age.


    But Kershaw very well could get better


    In his last 90 innings, he has a 1.10 ERA with like a 110K/12BB ratio.

    He is a beast, that's for sure.

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    I do wonder how he would have done in a tougher division and in an offensive era like 1995-2005..But he is a special talent that's for sure.
    Carlos Beltran 2014 Stats:
    33 Games | .307 wOBA | .240 BABIP | 5 HRs | 14 Runs | 15 RBIs


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    Pfffttt dude couldn't even get the nod in the all star game
    TWINSIES!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClipperFan489 View Post
    I hope so.

    The real question is, can he continue to do what he is doing for another 3,000 innings.

    His dominance relative to his league is kind of crazy. He is going on his 4th season in a row of leading the Majors in era and whip. And potentially 3 Cys in 4 years and a 2nd place finish.
    Should have won that year.

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    If he can develop a change up, he can ascend even higher.
    Last edited by ciaban; 07-28-2014 at 05:57 AM.

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