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    Selig "MLB had no idea A-Rod received a medical exemption for testosterone"

    MINNEAPOLIS -- Commissioner Bud Selig maintains that Major League Baseball had no idea Alex Rodriguez received a medical exemption from the sport's drug administrator to use a testosterone-boosting substance in 2007.

    Rodriguez received a therapeutic use exemption for the otherwise-banned substance clomid, according to the book "Blood Sport: Alex Rodriguez, Biogenesis and the Quest to End Baseball's Steroid Era," which was published last week.

    Clomid is prescribed for ovulation induction and has been used by men to restore the production of testosterone following a steroids cycle. The book said the exemption was granted by Bryan W. Smith, then the independent administrator of baseball's drug program.

    "We did not know about it at the time," Selig said Tuesday before the All-Star Game during the commissioner's annual meeting with the Baseball Writers' Association of America. "These independent people made a judgment. History proved them I guess it turned out to be somewhat wrong, but they were outstanding doctors."

    Rodriguez admitted in 2009 that he used a banned performance-enhancing substance while with the Texas Rangers from 2001 to 2003.

    The New York Yankees third baseman is serving a season-long ban this year after an MLB drug investigation; an arbitrator ruling on the discipline concluded there was "clear and convincing evidence" Rodriguez had used three banned substances.

    Smith was the program's administrator from 2006 until he was replaced in June 2012 by Dr. Jeffrey M. Anderson.

    "I probably shouldn't say this," Selig said, "the administrator at that time later was let go because he was too tough, as I remember."
    So the league's sport's drug administrator gave A-Rod an exemption for testosterone use but MLB (and Selig) didn't know about it?







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    apparently, he was given an exemption for the use of Clomid. NOT testosterone. two very different drugs.

    Clomid mostly prevents estrogen from exerting its effects on breast tissue. and although this can and does cause a slight increase in natural testosterone production due to interfering with one of the body's regulatory feedback loops, it is not at all the same as taking exogenous testosterone. for many reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xnick5757 View Post
    So the league's sport's drug administrator gave A-Rod an exemption for testosterone use but MLB (and Selig) didn't know about it?




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    Selig did not administrate the program. He's not a doctor, he's not in a position to even judge or need to know players' medical conditions.
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    In other words Selig is pulling the old "I know nothing," defense.

    Plausible deniability is quite the versatile thing, is it not?
    We’re pointing out that these statistics breed false narratives, and we value the truth. This isn’t about replacing old numbers with new numbers, or attempting to dissuade anyone from enjoying the aesthetics of the game. It is simply about telling the average fan about the reality of what actually happened on the field. The “Holy Trinity” of baseball statistics fail at this most basic task, and so they are not worth deifying any longer. - Dave Cameron

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceHawk-181 View Post
    In other words Selig is pulling the old "I know nothing," defense.
    There's nothing to defend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbombz View Post
    apparently, he was given an exemption for the use of Clomid. NOT testosterone. two very different drugs.

    Clomid mostly prevents estrogen from exerting its effects on breast tissue. and although this can and does cause a slight increase in natural testosterone production due to interfering with one of the body's regulatory feedback loops, it is not at all the same as taking exogenous testosterone. for many reasons.
    And why was he taking clomid? Bc needing recovery from cycle of test and possibly other compounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit View Post
    And why was he taking clomid? Bc needing recovery from cycle of test and possibly other compounds?
    Perhaps he got tired of the nickname for him in the Yankees clubhouse that rhymes with "itch fits".

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    Not this crap again. I want to allow PEDs in sports that way whoever wants to shrink their dongs for money can do so while the ones who don't and want to win on their own accord can do it. No point in not legalizing it in the sport since a lot of people won't make the HOF from the Steroid Era.

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    Gynecomastia is a legit medical issue and clomid prevents it. If arod was having side effects from when he admitted he was doing it this is a legit argument.

    Also the league should really think about punishing anabolic steroids and pct's differently. If someone comes off a hefty cycle and doesn't post cycle right it can lead to long term hormone imballance. The league has no way of knowing why arod was taking Clomid or why Manny was taking tamoxifen, it could very well be because of steroid use much earlier in thier carrers.

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    Selig, most crooked commissioner in the last 30 years. He IS the most guilty party in all the steroid discussions.

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    this whole arod thing is stupid to begin with

    arod gets 200 plus games and everyone else gets off with a slap on the wrist, its a big conspiracy between mlb and the yankees to get him out of the game

    same crap happened to bonds

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    Quote Originally Posted by quade36 View Post
    Selig, most crooked commissioner in the last 30 years. He IS the most guilty party in all the steroid discussions.
    Yup. Selig loved the juice when mac and Sosa helped bring back baseball, but now that he's retiring he's trying to play good cop. Dude is a major hypocrite
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    Quote Originally Posted by quade36 View Post
    Selig, most crooked commissioner in the last 30 years. He IS the most guilty party in all the steroid discussions.
    The moral scold again throws his weight around.

    Proof please.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    I love how people blame Selig for steroids in baseball

    What a joke.


    I don't like Selig, mainly because he says stupid stuff (we don't need replay because attendance is up for example)

    But he can't just rule with an iron fist over steroids. Steroids lasted as long as they did because of the MLBPA's fight against testing over it's players. That isn't Seligs call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I love how people blame Selig for steroids in baseball

    What a joke.


    I don't like Selig, mainly because he says stupid stuff (we don't need replay because attendance is up for example)

    But he can't just rule with an iron fist over steroids. Steroids lasted as long as they did because of the MLBPA's fight against testing over it's players. That isn't Seligs call.
    They wont listen.
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