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    Does Jeter get too much respect for a 70 win player?

    He's had an all time great career, but isn't it a little out of hand for a 70 win player? He gets the respect of a 120 player. Like an inner circle all time great, but the fact is he's just not.

    Obviously some things enhance his prestige.

    1. He's a Yankee (Capitalism)
    2. He's squeaky clean
    3. He's good at baseball

    But it's out of control really.

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    He isn't any more special of a ball player than Chipper Jones was, and Chipper didn't get anywhere close to this attention.


    But it's understandable why he does

    1. He's a Yankee
    2. He's a shortstop
    3. He's a good looking guy
    4. He never, ever, literally ever, says something stupid. He is the king of the cliches in interviews and for the most part keeps his mouth shut
    5. He's single and dates models, and Chipper ****ed around on his wife and is going through divorce number 2. People find that very unsettling for a media darling
    6. He's got the rings, and has done some key moment big time things in his career (the flip at the plate, the home run in November, etc).
    7. He hustles



    People love him. And hell, I respect the hell out of him. He's a first ballot hall of famer. But, he shouldn't have any gold gloves, and he shouldn't be in this all-star game. If it didn't count and people didn't look at accolades like All-Star game appearances, then it wouldn't matter. But both of those things exist, so he shouldn't be at this game.


    But, he's no better than Chipper Jones, Grich, Whitaker, Beltre, etc. Ripken was a better shortstop all time, etc.

    Over-rated by fans and the media. But isn't so grossly over-rated that it's ridiculous. I am kind of looking forward to him being gone though. ESPN and the New York market way over-rate him.


    Also, it's ****ing ridiculous that he played short as long as he did in his career, he would have made a very good career second basemen. Cano and A-Rod should have played short instead of him.

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    Well this thread should be funny.
    Boston Sports!!

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    Who Larry ? Jeter is overrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    He isn't any more special of a ball player than Chipper Jones was, and Chipper didn't get anywhere close to this attention.


    But it's understandable why he does

    1. He's a Yankee
    2. He's a shortstop
    3. He's a good looking guy
    4. He never, ever, literally ever, says something stupid. He is the king of the cliches in interviews and for the most part keeps his mouth shut
    5. He's single and dates models, and Chipper ****ed around on his wife and is going through divorce number 2. People find that very unsettling for a media darling
    6. He's got the rings, and has done some key moment big time things in his career (the flip at the plate, the home run in November, etc).
    7. He hustles



    People love him. And hell, I respect the hell out of him. He's a first ballot hall of famer. But, he shouldn't have any gold gloves, and he shouldn't be in this all-star game. If it didn't count and people didn't look at accolades like All-Star game appearances, then it wouldn't matter. But both of those things exist, so he shouldn't be at this game.


    But, he's no better than Chipper Jones, Grich, Whitaker, Beltre, etc. Ripken was a better shortstop all time, etc.

    Over-rated by fans and the media. But isn't so grossly over-rated that it's ridiculous. I am kind of looking forward to him being gone though. ESPN and the New York market way over-rate him.


    Also, it's ****ing ridiculous that he played short as long as he did in his career, he would have made a very good career second basemen. Cano and A-Rod should have played short instead of him.
    You Forgot the 3,400 hits. Little mistake

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    Jeter is receiving gifts in opposing ballparks he's barely ever even played in.

    The 2014 all star game, which was one of the better ones in recent memory basically was the side story to Jeter being in the damn game.

    That's too much clout for a 70 win player IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyourself View Post
    Jeter is receiving gifts in opposing ballparks he's barely ever even played in.

    The 2014 all star game, which was one of the better ones in recent memory basically was the side story to Jeter being in the damn game.

    That's too much clout for a 70 win player IMO.
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    Jeter is a Bi-Racial angel.

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    Yes and no. He's a clear first ballot HoF'er but only "overrated" because there are so many Yankees fans. He's a sacred cow in baseball due to the NY media, so every conversation about him is a big echo chamber of "so classy, great hitter, mr. november," and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight View Post
    he had Tommy John ? you should start a thread, thats breaking news.
    You Forgot the needs Tommy John. Little mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyourself View Post
    Does Jeter get too much respect for a 70 win player?
    "RE2PECT"

    and

    yes
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    It basically boils down to this.

    Derek Jeter had an amazing career as the face of the Yankees franchise, did it with respect and dignity, and clearly gained the admiration of not only the fans but his fellow teammates, managers, and baseball staffs in the process.

    He is clearly a first ballot hall of famer and one of the, if not the, faces of a generation of baseball.

    So we have a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer, face of the most popular franchise in the world, and perhaps the single most popular athletes in America for the last two decades with very few other names open for serious competition.

    And this is his send-off in a season in which he is clearly not going to be playing in October.

    He deserves the attention and the respect.

    Get over it.
    We’re pointing out that these statistics breed false narratives, and we value the truth. This isn’t about replacing old numbers with new numbers, or attempting to dissuade anyone from enjoying the aesthetics of the game. It is simply about telling the average fan about the reality of what actually happened on the field. The “Holy Trinity” of baseball statistics fail at this most basic task, and so they are not worth deifying any longer. - Dave Cameron

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceHawk-181 View Post
    It basically boils down to this.

    Derek Jeter had an amazing career as the face of the Yankees franchise, did it with respect and dignity, and clearly gained the admiration of not only the fans but his fellow teammates, managers, and baseball staffs in the process.

    He is clearly a first ballot hall of famer and one of the, if not the, faces of a generation of baseball.

    So we have a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer, face of the most popular franchise in the world, and perhaps the single most popular athletes in America for the last two decades with very few other names open for serious competition.

    And this is his send-off in a season in which he is clearly not going to be playing in October.

    He deserves the attention and the respect.

    Get over it.
    he is not even close to begin the most popular athlete in america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceHawk-181 View Post
    It basically boils down to this.

    Derek Jeter had an amazing career as the face of the Yankees franchise, did it with respect and dignity, and clearly gained the admiration of not only the fans but his fellow teammates, managers, and baseball staffs in the process.

    He is clearly a first ballot hall of famer and one of the, if not the, faces of a generation of baseball.

    So we have a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer, face of the most popular franchise in the world, and perhaps the single most popular athletes in America for the last two decades with very few other names open for serious competition.

    And this is his send-off in a season in which he is clearly not going to be playing in October.

    He deserves the attention and the respect.

    Get over it.
    well said , couldn't have said it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightbottle View Post
    he is not even close to begin the most popular athlete in america.
    highest selling jersey in MLB, America is tough. To say it's not even close , do you have any stats to back this up. I don't
    Last edited by DarkKnight; 07-16-2014 at 12:01 AM.

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