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    Sabermetric Question

    Maybe we could have a "sticky thread" dedicated to questions about Sabermetrics.

    1st Question: How does Johnny Peralta have a WAR more than twice as high as Starlin Castro when Castro beats him in almost every statistical category?


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    Maybe not beating him in all categories but close in almost everything.


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    The only major category Starlin has him beat in is BA.

    Also, Peralta's defense has apparently been a lot better than Starlins. That's why his WAR is higher.

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    Defense.


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    I did't know WAR included defense. I thought that was what DWar was for.

    Got it.


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    SO if you remove DWar are you left with OWar? and if that is the case...then Peralta is a 1.7 and Castro is a 1.3. Is Peralta having a better season offensively than Starlin? I dont see it.


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    ~.10 points of wOBA (weighted on base average...basically, like OPS but it weights things a little more fairly, considering that OBP runs on a 1.000 scale and SLG on a 4.000 scale meaning that OPS has SLG bias in it).

    1.7 to 1.3 is pretty close. My rule of thumb when comparing any WAR type deal is that if it's within .5 or so, it's pretty damn close, because WAR is susceptible to fluctuation and imperfection. It's always very important with WAR or any statistic, to remember there is no silver bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1908_Cubs View Post
    ~.10 points of wOBA (weighted on base average...basically, like OPS but it weights things a little more fairly, considering that OBP runs on a 1.000 scale and SLG on a 4.000 scale meaning that OPS has SLG bias in it).

    1.7 to 1.3 is pretty close. My rule of thumb when comparing any WAR type deal is that if it's within .5 or so, it's pretty damn close, because WAR is susceptible to fluctuation and imperfection. It's always very important with WAR or any statistic, to remember there is no silver bullet.
    Keep in mind half a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doogolas View Post
    Keep in mind half a season.
    Yeah, that as well.

    Thanks for adding!
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    Something to do with Christ Punchers. That's all I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Something to do with Christ Punchers. That's all I know.
    I lol'd.


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    Peralta's defense seems like a major anomaly. Probably just some SSS randomness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The20thK View Post
    Maybe we could have a "sticky thread" dedicated to questions about Sabermetrics.
    Why just a thread when we've got an entire forum?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1908_Cubs View Post
    ~.10 points of wOBA (weighted on base average...basically, like OPS but it weights things a little more fairly, considering that OBP runs on a 1.000 scale and SLG on a 4.000 scale meaning that OPS has SLG bias in it).

    1.7 to 1.3 is pretty close. My rule of thumb when comparing any WAR type deal is that if it's within .5 or so, it's pretty damn close, because WAR is susceptible to fluctuation and imperfection. It's always very important with WAR or any statistic, to remember there is no silver bullet.
    Got it. Thanks 1908


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yagyu+ View Post
    Why just a thread when we've got an entire forum?
    Didnt know that existed... thanks


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