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    Does your team have depth?

    Stole this thread...seemed interesting.

    PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: Based on Pat Kirwans definition, does your team have depth? Reply with quote
    Pat Kirwan posted his definition of whether a team had depth, and its based on 13 questions. I thought it was the best definition of depth I've see so far.

    Based on Pat Kirwans definition, does your team have depth?

    The 13 questions are as follows:

    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?

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    I'll try this:
    1) I like to think so. Bruce Gradkowski has been good in spurts as well.

    2) no. As of right now Mike Adams is the 3 tackle and might not make it out of camp.

    3) we got two of them.

    4) Blount can do that and has.

    5) depends who you ask. Speith is a + blocker but does nothing for the pass game. So I would say no.

    6) this is up in air. Mostly because we dunno who the 2 is. If it's Wheaton then we got one in Moore.

    7) no. But Lebeaus scheme is a bit different.

    8) 3-4 but no we don't have a second IMO.

    9) yesish. William Gay is decent, but can be beat. Average nickel.

    10) no.

    11) yes Shamarko Thomas

    12) yesish again. Brown was but they might shift to a new guy.

    13) honestly dunno. Our ST ace is a DB.
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    1. Yes, no matter which QB starts.

    2. Not really, though Antonio Johnson could fulfill that role in a few years.

    3. Yes (Joe Berger).

    4. McKinnon has the potential to, so I'll compromise with a maybe.

    5. Yes (Ellison for blocking, Chase Ford for receiving).

    6. Yes. Wright can stretch the field well.

    7. Yes with an asterisk. Griffen could fulfill the role, but if he turns to a full-time starter, either Crichton or Wootton might be able to do that.

    8. Yes (Fred Evans).

    9. Don't really know; maybe Robinson.

    10. Yes (either Cox, Robinson, or Prater).

    11. Yes (Blanton).

    12. Yes (Sherels).

    13. Yes (Cole).

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no) Yes

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience? Yes

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center? Yes

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start? **** yes

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster? No

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down? Yes but don't tell Kev

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be? Idk yet

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be? yes

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses? yes

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages? yes

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses? yes

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player? I think so, not sure who's going to be the returner yet though

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch? Yes



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    Who's #2? Sherrod? He doesn't have experience lol.

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    2-5 and 8 are yes for detroit... that's about it.

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)
    Yes. Vick is fairly capable of winning a few games if need be.

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?
    Nah can't say we have a proven one. Ben Ijalana has been great in his limited preseason games and Oday Aboushi is supposedly a nice young prospect, but no neither has proven experience when it really matters.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?
    I think Mangold could possibly play guard. Not sure

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?
    Yup, Ivory/Johnson (whoever is the backup) both have had their fair share of 100-yard days. Powell could possibly too. Hell, even Darryl Richardson is solid when healthy.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?
    If Amaro can turn into the player he can be, then Cumberland can be a really serviceable #2. Sudfield and the others aren't proven.

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?
    Depends on who our third wide receiver is. Kerley is our 2nd best receiver, but he's a Slot guy. He's had success when he's been forced to move to the outside. If you're talking about the 3rd best receiver on the team, then no.

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?
    Antwaan Barnes was really solid before he got hurt last year. Would have got 7+ sacks easily I think.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?
    Yup. Kenrick Ellis is a beast that would start at NT for most teams. Leger Douzable was also really really good when he played last year.

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?
    For all the **** Kyle Wilson gets, he's been solid as a Nickel. Patterson can also have success at Nickel. We just drafted another nickel corner in the 3rd in Dexter McDougle

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?
    Yea.

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?
    At the moment if Pryor steps up, one of Antonio Allen/Dawan Landry will be the 3rd safety. More of a wait and see question.
    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position
    player?
    We'll see if Jalen Saunders can turn into that.

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?
    Nick Bellore is solid I guess. We drafted Jeremiah George to really fit this bill.

    Surprised how many Jets apply to these questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basch152 View Post
    2-5 and 8 are yes for detroit... that's about it.
    What? How do we not have the last two?

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)

    Definitely depends on the teams in that 4 game stretch but I think Hasselbeck is pretty good.

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?

    No.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?

    Yes. 2nd round pick Jack Mewhort.

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?

    Yes, Bradshaw is good.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?

    Yes. Fleener.

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?

    Nicks/Wayne/Hilton... take your pick on who the 3rd WR would be.

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?

    No.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?

    Yes, Ricky Jean Francois

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?

    No. Darius Butler is overrated.

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?

    Yes, Josh Gordy isn't terrible.

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?

    No, Colts are pretty thin at safety.

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?

    Yes, Donte Moncrief may be returning kicks.

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?

    Yes, Andy Studebaker.
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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)

    TBD?

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?

    Yes, Vollmer but he hasn't had to do it for a while.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?

    As of right now, no.

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?

    Ya, Vareen definitely has it in him.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?

    Depends on your opinion on Hooman. He's not much of a receiving threat.

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?

    Honestly have no idea who the third WR is right now

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?

    Don't really have a pass-rush specialist.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?

    Easley's the third DT as of right now, so again it's a question mark.

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?

    Arrington's a good nickel.

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?

    Yes, Dennard.

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?

    I guess you could play Browner as a third safety, though we don't have an idea of who will be the starting SS as of right now.


    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?

    Edelman can contribute outside of returning, Slater can't

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?

    Matt Slater is seen as the "ST captain"

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)
    We have Mark Sanchez …I guess now that he is an Eagle and playing a backup role, yes he can probably come in and go 2-2 depending on who we are playing. Let's hope that doesn't have to happen, though.

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?
    Yes, our line is great overall

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?
    Yes

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?
    Yes, Sproles and also Chris Polk is solid

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?
    Yes, Ertz will probably emerge as our TE1

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?
    Don't know yet, but most likely. I believe Jordan Matthews will be a great receiver in this league. I think he has real potential to be our best receiver year 1

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?
    We could use pass-rushers. Trent Cole is solid, and hopefully rookie Marcus Smith can contribute.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?
    No our DTs blow

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?
    Yes Boykin is great

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?
    We will have to see how Nolan Carroll and rookie Jaylen Watkins play

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?
    No our safeties blow.

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?
    Yes, Sproles, Brad Smith, etc

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?
    Yes i'm actually excited about how we signed Bryan Braham and safety Chris Maragos. These two guys should definitely contribute a lot of special teams, something we struggled with last season.

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)
    Unknown, Cassel could, but if he's the starter, hopeful but no idea with Teddy

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?
    Not even close, our swing veterans are gone.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?
    Yes. Joe Berger is solid at all 3 inside spots for a backup. Jeff Baca has one year of "experience", and the overweight matador known as Vlad Ducasse is somehow on the team.

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start? Unlikely. Gerhart is gone, and McKinnon is an unproven Sproles-esque rookie.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster? No. Rhett Ellison is good at blocking, average otherwise

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down? Yes. Greg Jennings/Cordarrele Patterson are tops. Jerome Simpson is good enough to start.

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?
    Yes. Robison/Everson Griffen suffice.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?
    Yes. Fred Evans would start on a couple teams.

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?
    No. Although Captain Munnerlyn will play slot in Nickel, and he has been solid in past. years, that means Josh Robinson on the outside... unknown.

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages? No. Unless Derek Cox rebounds off of his big contact disappointment in SD.

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses? No. Only 1 proven starter at S

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player? Yes. Cordarrele Patterson, enough said.

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch? Yes. Audie Cole.


    Don't care how many yes/no answers, Vikings have below average depth.
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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no) Unknown. So by default, no.

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience? Chris Clark.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center? Before last year, Manny Ramirez played guard. He was pretty terrible at guard but very solid at center.

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start? I love C.J. Anderson, but he's far from proven, so no.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster? Yes. Jacob Tamme, Joel Dreessen (when healthy) and Virgil Green.

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down? Yes.

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be? We have multiple depth players that can rush the passer but aren't specifically "specialists". Quanterus Smith, but again, unproven.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be? Yes.

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses? Yes.

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages? I said no for the other unproven players, but here I'm going to say yes. I have faith in Kayvon Webster as a 4th CB.

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses? Yes

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player? Yes.

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch? No.

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    1. Does your team have quality backup QB? (If he can go at least 2-2 in a 4 game stretch, the answer to this question is yes. If not, the answer is no)

    No. We have Gabbert.

    2. Does your team have a real swing offensive tackle, a guy that can play left or right tackle and has experience?

    Staley could, but he wouldn't leave LT. Boone might be able to.

    3. Does your team have a solid inside offensive lineman that can play guard or center?

    We think M. Martin and Kilgore can be those.

    4. Is there a quality second running back that can deliver a 100-yard rushing day if he had to start?

    Yes. Kendall Hunter is capable of that. Hyde and Lattimore maybe.

    5. Is there a good second tight end on the roster?

    Good? Idk. McDonald had his struggles but also potential.

    6. Can the third wide receiver step up and start in the two-WR packages if a starter went down?

    I can say yes this year thanks to Stevie

    7. Does your team have a designated pass-rush specialist who could play the early downs if need be?

    If Aldon counts then yes. If not, we hope Lemonier or Tank breaks out in that role.

    8. Is there a third defensive tackle that not only plays in a rotation but could play the whole game if need be?

    Yes. Tony Jerrod-Eddie

    9. Is there a quality nickel corner on the roster, since most teams are at least 50 percent sub defenses?

    Jimmie Ward we hope but he's unproven.

    10 Is there a fourth corner for dime packages?

    Perrish Cox but he's not good so no

    11. Is there a third safety for big nickel defenses?

    Last year it was Dahl so it was a big no. Daryl Morris is making strides, but he's unproven

    12. Is there a return specialist that can either handle both punt and kick returns or contribute as a real position player?

    Lamichael James doesn't figure into the offense much. If Ellington is returning, he'll get some plays on offense

    13. Does your team have a special-teams linebacker that leads the specials and can play inside linebacker in a pinch?

    Yes. Wilhoite will be doing that to start the season. We also drafted Borland

    I guess that's a decent amount. A lot contingent on unproven players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Who's #2? Sherrod? He doesn't have experience lol.
    If everybody stays healthy, Sherrod is probably the LT backup and Barclay the RT/G backup. And Barcaly is a quality backup IMO

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