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    26 league insiders ranked the QBs for ESPN

    The league insiders include 8 GMs, 2 ex-GMs, 4 pro personnel guys, 7 coordinators, 2 head coaches, and 2 position coaches.

    Here's the list:

    Tier 1
    Tom Brady (1.04 average rating)
    Peyton Manning (1.04 average rating)
    Aaron Rodgers (1.04 average rating)
    Drew Brees (1.04 average rating)
    Andrew Luck (1.50 average rating)
    Tier 2
    Philip Rivers (1.77 average rating)
    Ben Roethlisberger (1.85 average rating)
    Matt Ryan (2.23 average rating)
    Tony Romo (2.23 average rating)
    Russell Wilson (2.23 average rating)
    Eli Manning (2.23 average rating)
    Joe Flacco (2.31 average rating)
    Matthew Stafford (2.38 average rating)
    Colin Kaepernick (2.50 average rating)
    Nick Foles (2.56 average rating)
    Tier 3
    Cam Newton (2.58 average rating)
    Jay Cutler (2.62 average rating)
    Alex Smith (2.96 average rating)
    Andy Dalton (3.00 average rating)
    RG3 (3.00 average rating)
    Carson Palmer (3.12 average rating)
    Sam Bradford (3.12 average rating)
    Ryan Tannehill (3.32 average rating)
    Josh McCown (3.52 average rating)
    Tier 4
    Matt Schaub (3.58 average rating)
    Chad Henne (4.15 average rating)
    EJ Manuel (4.24 average rating)
    Matt Cassell (4.27 average rating)
    Bryan Hoyer (4.28 average rating)
    Ryan Fitzpatrick (4.35 average rating)
    Jake Locker (4.42 average rating)
    Geno Smith (4.48 average rating)
    It's always interesting to see what people who actually know what they are talking about think. Thoughts?
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    Swap Luck with Rivers and I agree sor the most part
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    I'd swap Luck with Big Ben

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    "Wow these idiots didnt google lucks stats."

    - every homer with a young qb who is worse but they dont get it

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    This entire thread will be people complaining about luck.they still think they know more than actual scouts and gms bc STATSZ

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    I think kap should move down a tier to 3, and dalton should be down there at 4. I also don't think flacco is a tier above cutler but what do I know. Rivers should be tier 1 imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedSB View Post
    I think kap should move down a tier to 3, and dalton should be down there at 4. I also don't think flacco is a tier above cutler but what do I know. Rivers should be tier 1 imo.
    I agree about moving Kap down, but I think Dalton is a solid QB. Leave him at 3, he has lead his team to the playoffs enough times to have the respect of a tier 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    This entire thread will be people complaining about luck.they still think they know more than actual scouts and gms bc STATSZ
    So you think they got it right then? I just think Rivers has proven himself with no supporting cast, therfore should be praised like a tier 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seahawker562 View Post
    So you think they got it right then? I just think Rivers has proven himself with no supporting cast, therfore should be praised like a tier 1
    Who the hell am i to question scouts gms and coaches?

    I mean i google stats but...also rivers had spoils of players that were grwat when he made his name. He fits tier two closer. After 2012 all the psd geniuses had him out of tje top ten....

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    So they asked each dude to rate each qb on a scale from 1-5, right? Shouldn't the tiers cut off at each number then? Seems like someone other than the gms/coaches/whatevers went ahead and assigned tiers based on some unknown criteria. The overall rankings are pretty spot on but I'm curious how they decided to divide up the list.

    edit: that would have made schaub tier 3, and alex smith tier 2, so I guess I can see why they did that now.
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    Flip Luck and Rivers tiers, but it's solid.

    Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and Colin Kaepernick walk into a bar... To watch Russell Wilson win the Super Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller1 View Post
    Flip Luck and Rivers tiers, but it's solid.
    You>NFL GM's, scouts, and coaches?
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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    Lol, so everyone should just agree with the list to a tee then, huh? Gotcha.

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    Geno

    Prove the haters wrong buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller1 View Post
    Lol, so everyone should just agree with the list to a tee then, huh? Gotcha.
    I just think it's funny that so many of us get bashed for saying how good Luck is, then you have PROFESSIONALS.

    IN THE NFL.


    GMS.

    COACHES.

    COORDINATORS.

    PERSONNEL DIRECTORS, SCOUTS.


    And like 5 people in this thread all think they know more than them. lol


    Yes, when a consensus of scouts, GMs, and coaches/coordinators tells you something and you don't agree. 99% of the time, you are wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    Gabbert is clearly the best QB package in this draft in my opinion.
    All in all, if the Panthers are going to select a QB, Gabbert has to be the pick.
    People take this guy seriously?

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