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    Knicks targeting Melo-Gasol combo (Stein)

    Knicks targeting Melo-Gasol combo

    The New York Knicks are increasingly optimistic about their chances of re-signing star Carmelo Anthony even as he readies himself to talk to other teams next week, according to sources close to the situation.

    Sources told ESPN.com that Knicks officials, while not willing to trumpet it publicly with free agency fast approaching, are quietly confident about their odds of retaining Anthony thanks in part to the idea that new team president Phil Jackson and the high-scoring forward have "connected" to some degree.

    Furthermore, one source close to the process told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne that Jackson is planning to make a determined attempt to try to recruit his former Los Angeles Lakers center Pau Gasol to replace the freshly traded Tyson Chandler alongside Anthony on the Knicks' front line, despite the fact New York is limited to offering Gasol less than $4 million for next season.

    Time will tell if the Knicks' internal confidence in retaining Anthony proves justified, given that he opted out of the final year of his contract at $23.3 million -- with Jackson urging him to opt in -- and will soon be courted face-to-face by a handful of top teams in big cities.

    The 30-year-old officially becomes an unrestricted free agent on Tuesday at 12:01 a.m. and, as ESPN.com reported earlier this week, is planning to go on visits or hold meetings with the Chicago Bulls, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks and Lakers all before the Fourth of July. It also must be noted as July 1 draws near that the Bulls and Rockets have likewise been radiating no shortage of positivity about their chances of stealing Anthony away from the Knicks.

    The Miami Heat are likewise expected to have Anthony's ear if they choose to formally jump into the race, thanks to the close relationship between LeBron James and the Knicks' star, sources say. But Heat president Pat Riley -- after confirming a recent ESPN.com report that Miami has Anthony on its radar despite the challenges it faces just to get James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh all re-signed -- has acknowledged that growing the Heat's Big Three into a Big Four is a "pipe dream."

    Sources told ESPN.com this week that the Knicks swung their trade with the Mavericks to send out Chandler and the out-of-favor Raymond Felton to bring back a clutch of veterans in return -- headlined by point guard Jose Calderón -- in their belief that Anthony would relish the prospect of playing with the Spaniard. Calderon has been a perimeter threat and a beloved teammate everywhere he's played.

    Jackson, though, was guarded Thursday in his public comments about the Knicks' chances of retaining Anthony, with New York hamstrung in what it can to do to upgrade the roster around him until it has significant salary-cap space in the summer of 2015.

    "It's a big question because there are so many things that can happen out there," Jackson said. "We really don't know. With LeBron getting in this free agency ... we don't know what all that means. But we have every confidence that Carmelo is good for what his word is, that he wants to be in New York, he likes playing in New York, he wants to compete, he wants to be part of a playoff team that is competitive toward a championship."

    Sources nonetheless insist that the Knicks feel far better about their chances than Jackson is letting on. No team can match the five years and $129 million that New York can provide if it wishes to offer a maximum contract to Anthony, and while Anthony is undoubtedly intrigued by the chance to team with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah and coach Tom Thibodeau in Chicago, he also still loves the Madison Square Garden stage dearly.

    Amid speculation that the Knicks are reluctant to offer a max deal to Anthony, Jackson said: "We haven't come to that. But the perception is we want Carmelo to be as interested in winning. When saying he's competitive and wants to be on a competitive team to also being able to demonstrate that if push comes to shove in a situation where he may have to take a little bit less and we're more competitive to bring in another player to help us bring this concept along."

    Anthony can receive a maximum of $95.9 million over four seasons if he decides to leave. Jackson has refused to address whether he will consider doing a sign-and-trade if Anthony opts to leave, but he did insist that the Knicks improved their chemistry Wednesday by shedding Chandler and Felton in the Dallas deal and contends that the trade sends "a message to all of our players that we are on the move and we are making changes."

    As ESPN.com reported earlier this week, sources say Chicago has been plotting its free-agent pursuit of Anthony all the way back to the January trade of Luol Deng, while Houston on Wednesday night struck a deal to trade center Omer Asik to New Orleans in the first major step toward clearing enough salary-cap space to pursue Anthony or James. The Rockets have been telling teams for weeks that they have a subsequent trade lined up to move out guard Jeremy Lin if a marquee free agent verbally commits to Houston.

    Chandler, for his part, thinks his return to the Mavericks will enhance Dallas' pitch to Anthony greatly.

    "[Anthony] wants to win and he wants to be in a system and he wants to be in a culture," Chandler said this week. "I think that's going to go into a big part of his decision-making.

    "I'm going to do whatever I can to help the team and the organization. At the end of the day, free agency is kind of an individual thing ... But I'll tell you one thing: Dallas isn't a bad place to be; it's a great opportunity and clearly we've done it in the past. It's not a hard place to sell. I'm going to do whatever it takes."
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    Knicks targeting Melo-Gasol combo (Stein)

    I can see this happening with gasol coming to ny. But I think melo is gone honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowdown27 View Post
    I can see this happening with gasol coming to ny. But I think melo is gone honestly.
    If they got gasol to come I think melo stays. Most money improving team Phil I think he stays
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    The problem with the Lakers, when Phil last coached, was their overall lack of athleticism. The Knicks would be a better team adding Gasol...but a team with Gasol, Dalembert, Calderon, Odom, Melo, Bargnani, Shump who doesn't necessarily play athletic, Amare, Prigioni and JR who is declining athletically, would meet the same issues the Lakers had. They had trouble defending and often got ran off the court that year, including the playoffs...big time. We can't just put together the old Lakers, think great, and ignore how much trouble they had that last season. Also, Gasol is about to be 34...he can potentially be a shell of himself in the blink of an eye. But, it does make them better.

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    there will be trades I don't think casol is signing outright

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    Knicks targeting Melo-Gasol combo (Stein)

    Are we allowed to sign and trade for him?

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    What's the best way to get rid of Bargnani? That's the only way I really see this happening. Gotta deal Bargs with someone like Shump to get the tires rolling.

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    I don't think Pau is enough to get Melo to stay.. Marc would be a different story though

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    Word is Melo is in on the plan too. That's the benefit of him going to FA. He gets to recruit Gasol while he listens to other teams

    Melo, Gasol, Stat, and Calderon is good enough to compete for the division. That's should be enough to hold down the fort until 2015 when we can have phil, Calderon, melo, and Pau Gasol recruit Marc to come to NY. I don't see how he can tell them no.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jint. View Post
    I don't think Pau is enough to get Melo to stay.. Marc would be a different story though
    Think the idea would be to get Pau this season.. then hopefully that would be enough to get Marc to come next season.. that may be enough to get Melo to stay, but who knows..... I get this feeling Melo already knows where he is going(or staying) .. just wants to go through process to stroke ego a bit(like all players like).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yfern328 View Post
    What's the best way to get rid of Bargnani? That's the only way I really see this happening. Gotta deal Bargs with someone like Shump to get the tires rolling.
    I am probably the only 1 that thinks this, but would love to see if we could get Pau without trading Bargs... I think Pau could be a very good influence on Bargs.. and Pau could teach Bargnani A LOT!!

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    On the negative, Pau is 34. On the positive, he has a much higher BBall IQ than Dalembert. Maybe the original rumor that Dalembert was going to be dealt to another team has some legs.

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    I think Melo is returning but the signing of Gasol would greatly increase those chances.

    I just don't see how we can do it with only the mini MMLE.

    Wow that would be something though. Then in 2015 Marc Gasol would have 3 reasons to sign with the Knicks.

    His brother Pau, JC, and Melo...



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    Knicks can offer Melo the max now, since we have PG. Next year, Knicks would've had to offer two max contracts: to a Love and Rondo. Now with Calderon, we don't need a max PG.

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    I think we'd have to open up the FULL MLE and probably go 3 years for Gasol to come here. I think he'd def take a paycut to play for Phil and with Calderon, but we have to offer a reasonable deal.

    I could also see him signing for 1 year, with the wink, wink that we'd be able to offer him a larger deal next year with cap room, but that wouldn't be ideal for either party.

    Assuming Melo signs at about $18-20m to start, we'd be about 5-6m over the tax. So dumping someone like JR would get us at the MLE type level.

    I think Phil could also be using this as a ploy to get Melo to take less, because if Melo demands super max we're going to be 8-10m away from the full MLE and then it's going to be really hard to get Gasol.

    Gasol is still a top big man, averaged 18 & 10 last year and 4 assists per game. One of the better post passing big men in the league. Him & Calderon would completely change the dynamics of this team. Would be fun to watch.

    And then we'd be in great position to bring over his brother next year.

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