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    The 2014 Heat Were Worse In The Finals Than LeBron's 2007 Cavs Team

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    At some point around the time Dwyane Wade was impaled, for the second time, on a doddering walkabout turnover in the paint, the wider basketball-viewing world realized that Dwyane Wade has been dead all this time, and was only now being told. But Wade was far from the only Heat carcass to wash up these Finals.

    Here's how bad it was: Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh combined to post a game score of 18.5 (7.9 and 10.6, respectively). In 2007, when LeBron and the Cavs were swept by the Spurs, Drew Gooden and Boobie Gibson combined for 17.5. This is not flattering company, obviously. If you expand to the teams' top seven non-LeBron rotational players, the '07 Cavs actually pull ahead, with a combined Game Score of 42.2 to the '14 Heat's 36.2. (The average cumulative game score average for the numbers 2 through 8 players in a Finals is 47, because generally, teams in the Finals are good. The Spurs 2 through 8 combined for 66.) Which is to say, LeBron had more help in the Finals in 2007 than he did this year.

    LeBron's series average of 22.5 was more than twice as good as it was in 2007 (10.6), and higher than the average for the best player on a winning Finals team (20.6). Anyone watching could tell that the Heat were a one-man team, in a way completely at odds with how this team was supposed to work. Game Score is not the be-all, obviously—it's a combination of box score stats and shooting efficiency invented by John Hollinger—but it serves just fine as a broad indicator of something that we all watched for ourselves.

    All of this comes on top of the fact that in five games, the Spurs outscored the Heat by 70 points—more than in any NBA Finals matchup in history. The Heat were completely outgunned, and even leaning heavily on Ray Allen, or bringing out Shane Battier and Udonis Haslem, who were ostensibly in reserve for emergency use, didn't move the needle. Which brings us to another point: This year's Heat were never a superteam.

    You don't exhume Rashard Lewis and Supercool Beas if your rotation has the component parts of a functional Finals team. You do it when functions that your system has relied on begin to break down at the most inopportune (and most predictable) times, and you don't have a built-in backup plan. So when those Bosh threes stopped falling in the Finals—like when those Danny Green threes stopped falling late in last year's series—the whole thing went to hell.

    These are the kinds of problems that you run into when one player is carrying two others who are paid and treated like superstars, but don't perform as such—a very high-class Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall, you might say. And it's a hell of a lot harder to fix when you're constrained by those salaries at the upper register of the pay scale. So if Miami is really serious about keeping this thing going, it would probably be better served looking for its next Danny Green and Patty Mills than to go shopping for a Carmelo.

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    Talent wise? Not a chance. Production wise? Obviously.

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    And this shows you just how wrong all the LeBron haters are about how "stacked" this Heat team really is.

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    Still don't buy that since stats can only go so far. The eye test shows that Miami had a chance to win 2 games realistically, Games 1 and 2. Lebron leaving Game 1 led to an implosion. Game 2 was a W. Lebron was having a good shooting series though. He was the only guy w/ great consistency on the Heat roster. San Antonio had shots go in even if they were defended well, so you know it was their series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir13579:28634881
    And this shows you just how wrong all the LeBron haters are about how "stacked" this Heat team really is.
    Exactly they only made it to the finals 4 years in a row


    Quote Originally Posted by knicksfan42 View Post
    ...For me a large part of it is that they were rivals. LeBron vs Wade was a great rivalry and for them to team up just doesn't sit right with me. It would've been cool if LeBron had gone to the Bulls.....
    and Bosh to the Heat to join Wade. That would've been awesome... I would've respected LeBron way more if he went there.
    Why have great rivals when you can join them and have none.... Lebron James where losing the spirit of competition happens!

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    How they won a game at least?

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    Yup that Cleveland team was stacked. James still couldn't win a single finals game with the most stacked team in Cleveland.

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    Heat were a 66 win team last year, they are clearly talented, i do not think they are historically great for winning 4 ECF's in a row. they need to ask for wade to take 12, bosh to take 15 and for lebron to take 20. that 47 of a 63 mil cap. get Goran with the rest. turn bosh into your 2nd option and Goran 3rd. Run pick and rolls with Lebron and Bosh (both of who'm can finish or pick and pop) and have Wade be the slasher cutter. why Bosh isn't a 20 ppg scorer even on this team is beyond me. He needs a PG to become effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir13579 View Post
    And this shows you just how wrong all the LeBron haters are about how "stacked" this Heat team really is.
    1. Lebron hand-picked this team
    2. Just because the talent didn't produce doesn't mean it wasn't more elite
    3. The loss wasn't his fault but apparently the career move is now in question
    4. The answer to all questions is as follows: they lost to a better TEAM not to better individual talent
    Last edited by ink; 06-17-2014 at 01:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Talent wise? Not a chance. Production wise? Obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ink:28636389
    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir13579 View Post
    And this shows you just how wrong all the LeBron haters are about how "stacked" this Heat team really is.
    1. Lebron hand-picked this team
    2. Just because the talent didn't produce doesn't mean it wasn't more elite
    1. Not true and/or irrelevant.
    2. Lol. So what is being elite, then? When I hear the word "elite," a few Spurs guys come to mind before the likes Bosh or the skeleton of D-Wade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir13579 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ink:28636389
    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir13579 View Post
    And this shows you just how wrong all the LeBron haters are about how "stacked" this Heat team really is.
    1. Lebron hand-picked this team
    2. Just because the talent didn't produce doesn't mean it wasn't more elite
    1. Not true and/or irrelevant.
    2. Lol. so what is being elite, then? When I hear the word "elite," a few Spurs guys come to mind before the likes Bosh or the skeleton of D-Wade.
    Revisionist history. He hand picked his team so he could play with his Olympic BFFs. If they weren't good enough he has no one to blame but himself.

    Look it wasn't his fault they lost but this help nonsense and all the excuses just show how screwed up the league and it's fans have become.

    The Spurs were better. Pointing fingers is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEDean89 View Post
    Heat were a 66 win team last year, they are clearly talented, i do not think they are historically great for winning 4 ECF's in a row. they need to ask for wade to take 12, bosh to take 15 and for lebron to take 20. that 47 of a 63 mil cap. get Goran with the rest. turn bosh into your 2nd option and Goran 3rd. Run pick and rolls with Lebron and Bosh (both of who'm can finish or pick and pop) and have Wade be the slasher cutter. why Bosh isn't a 20 ppg scorer even on this team is beyond me. He needs a PG to become effective.

    Bron won 66 games with the Cavs

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettosean View Post
    Exactly they only made it to the finals 4 years in a row
    seems you have a hard time accepting facts,

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