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    Does Lebron's Legacy Get Ruined With Another Finals Loss?

    How will it`s affect`s his all time ranking and standing if he loses the Finals again? Can he win again and can he still be a top 5 player of all time recognized as a a great>?

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    Takes a hit, for sure. "Ruins"? Of course not. Magic lost, what, 3 times in the Finals? Larry lost twice. Kareem lost at least a few times. Etc.

    Losing in the Finals is bad, but getting there and losing is the second best result a team can have. It's a better team accomplishment than not making the Finals. Maybe a less impressive feat this year because of the landscape of the East, but still. The Spurs might truly just be a superior team than the Heat. It happens.

    I don't look at the loss in 2007 as a bad thing either. They fact that they made it there was a huge feat in its own right. They had no business competing with the Spurs. 2011 was bad. The "badness" of this is to be determined.

    What if he comes out an goes absolutely NOVA the next two games, but they still lose? It's more than just rings. Team success isn't that simple...and using it to judge individual greatness is even less simple.
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    It's a team game lol
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    Cam he still be better than Kobe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketLoc80 View Post
    Cam he still be better than Kobe?
    Why not? Kobe has two Finals losses. He had three years of horrible team play in the middle of his prime. He has fewer individual accolades than LeBron. If all we care about is team success, well, there are some lulls and disappointments in his career too.

    5 Finals wins in 7 Finals appearances would look better than 2 Finals wins in 5 Finals appearances...but I don't think those team accolades totally slam the door shut. Especially factoring in Shaq. There's more to measuring greatness than team success...because, you know, team success is dependent on the team. It matters, a ton, but it's always gotta be taken into context.
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    depends on how the rest of career shakes out

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    Yea kobe lost 2x and guys like Elway , the greatest qb, loss 3x. But this isn't the Dallas debacle. Lebron is the only constant for Miami . And bosh when he actually gets the ball. Chalmers should be benched. Play Douglas n cole
    and with the 12th pick, The New York Football Giants select ......Odell Beckham Jr, Wide Reciever from Louisana State University

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketLoc80 View Post
    How will it`s affect`s his all time ranking and standing if he loses the Finals again? Can he win again and can he still be a top 5 player of all time recognized as a a great>?
    It really depends on how his career finishes, if he finishes his career 2-3 in the finals, then yes it will affect his legacy. But if he goes to 3 or 4 more finals and wins 75% of them, he will still go down as a top 3 player of all time.

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    Heat losing just shows how much Wade is really done for. Assuming Lebron doesn't fade away like against Dallas.

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    He lost them the finals last year then got bailed out. hopefully he loses this year and things go back to normal in the nba.

    please change the name of this forum to Lebron Daily, too many ****ing useless threads about the guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicBucsSox View Post
    Yea kobe lost 2x and guys like Elway , the greatest qb, loss 3x. But this isn't the Dallas debacle. Lebron is the only constant for Miami . And bosh when he actually gets the ball. Chalmers should be benched. Play Douglas n cole
    Kobe going 5-2 in the finals is different then 2-3 in the finals. Again it all depends on how LeBron finishes his career. if he finishes 2-3 all time in the finals, yes it will affect his legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketLoc80 View Post
    Cam he still be better than Kobe?
    i think it would be a hotly debated topic(assuming he doesnt win any more rings),as the stats argument would heavily favor lebron,while the winning argument would be on kobe's side.

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    Maybe you can label me a LeBron apologist and write it off, but I just shudder when people use him losing in the 2007 Finals as a negative thing against him. Hence why context matters so much. He was a pup and about half the player he is now. That team had no business making the Finals. It was an over-achievement if anything. But he and that team weren't ready for the Finals at all at that point in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d00d View Post
    He lost them the finals last year then got bailed out. hopefully he loses this year and things go back to normal in the nba.

    please change the name of this forum to Lebron Daily, too many ****ing useless threads about the guy
    maybe u should stop posting in them? seems like you enjoy the topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketLoc80 View Post
    Cam he still be better than Kobe?
    hes already many levels better than kobe c'mon son

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