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  1. #2401
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    Quote Originally Posted by CubbyJoe View Post
    I think our 3 biggest needs are: DT, OG, CB
    I agree. If we could get Maurice Hurst in th first round I would be thrilled. Quentin Nelson would be even better but he’ll go top 10.
    2017 Vikings Draft :
    41: Dalvin Cook RB Florida State
    70: Pat Elflein C Ohio State
    109: Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa
    120: Ben Gedeon LB Michigan
    170: Rodney Adams WR South Florida
    180: Danny Isidora G Miami
    201: Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech
    219: Stacy Coley WR Miami
    220: Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
    232: Elijah Lee LB Kansas State
    245: Jack Tocho CB N.C. State

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubbyJoe View Post
    I think our 3 biggest needs are: DT, OG, CB
    Pretty crazy to go down our roster and not have a lot of needs. We are sitting pretty good. Depth at CB could get thin if Newman decides to retire but again he is playing well. DT we'll lose Tom Johnson and then Stephen could leave but I would like to resign him. He has played well this year. We also have Jaleel Johnson who could come in and be ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacofunk64 View Post
    Pretty crazy to go down our roster and not have a lot of needs. We are sitting pretty good. Depth at CB could get thin if Newman decides to retire but again he is playing well. DT we'll lose Tom Johnson and then Stephen could leave but I would like to resign him. He has played well this year. We also have Jaleel Johnson who could come in and be ready.
    Yeah basically all of our "needs" have more to do with having to replace aging veterans as they retire. You know you're in a good spot when that happens. I mean you could always upgrade on certain starters but thats hard to do through the draft because you only have 1 or 2 cracks at getting elite guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubbyJoe View Post
    Yeah basically all of our "needs" have more to do with having to replace aging veterans as they retire. You know you're in a good spot when that happens. I mean you could always upgrade on certain starters but thats hard to do through the draft because you only have 1 or 2 cracks at getting elite guys.
    I've been reading this could end up being a good draft to pick later. The top end talent isn't nearly as elite as previous years but their is a lot of depth.
    2017 Vikings Draft :
    41: Dalvin Cook RB Florida State
    70: Pat Elflein C Ohio State
    109: Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa
    120: Ben Gedeon LB Michigan
    170: Rodney Adams WR South Florida
    180: Danny Isidora G Miami
    201: Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech
    219: Stacy Coley WR Miami
    220: Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
    232: Elijah Lee LB Kansas State
    245: Jack Tocho CB N.C. State

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    I've been reading this could end up being a good draft to pick later. The top end talent isn't nearly as elite as previous years but their is a lot of depth.
    Perfect year to be on top lol

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    With 2 INTs and a fumble, is Case losing his grip on the starting position? (Not to mention the 6 sacks.)

    And yes, I understand that not all of that is on Keenum alone, but much of what people here were singing his praises for was avoiding sacks with his feet and completing risky throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdog View Post
    With 2 INTs and a fumble, is Case losing his grip on the starting position? (Not to mention the 6 sacks.)

    And yes, I understand that not all of that is on Keenum alone, but much of what people here were singing his praises for was avoiding sacks with his feet and completing risky throws.
    No, he isnt, he is the qb the rest of the season..

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    Unfortunately people don’t see keenum as the fraud that he is.
    Hopefully he plays like trash next week so we can get him out of the lineup before he costs us a chance at a super bowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA_1 View Post
    Unfortunately people don’t see keenum as the fraud that he is.
    Hopefully he plays like trash next week so we can get him out of the lineup before he costs us a chance at a super bowl
    The problem with that mindset is....we have no idea how Teddy would do if he was out there.
    Today's loss was not at all on Case.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA_1 View Post
    Unfortunately people don’t see keenum as the fraud that he is.
    Hopefully he plays like trash next week so we can get him out of the lineup before he costs us a chance at a super bowl
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    The problem with that mindset is....we have no idea how Teddy would do if he was out there.
    Today's loss was not at all on Case.
    That seems like a bit of an overstatement and/or overcompensation. Saying he was not the main reason or did not play poorly enough to incite speculation is one thing, but "not at all"

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    Zulgad: Vikings likely to put their trust in Teddy

    As the Vikings’ feel-good season of 2017 played out before our eyes we knew this day was coming. We just didn’t know when and members of the franchise, and fans alike, were hoping it would be after a Super Bowl parade.

    That possibility came to an abrupt and ugly end on Sunday as the Eagles ran the Vikings off the field in Philadelphia in the NFC title game. So on Tuesday coach Mike Zimmer gave his end-of-season press conference at Winter Park, fielding a variety of questions about the direction of the franchise.

    None was more important than the ones involving the Vikings’ plan at quarterback. For all the success the Vikings had in going 13-3 this season, and then winning an NFC Divisional playoff game against New Orleans in miraculous fashion, this team has little certainty at the most important position in sports.

    Case Keenum, the starting quarterback for much of 2017; Sam Bradford, the guy who entered the season as the starting QB and lasted one game before a sore knee wrecked his year; and Teddy Bridgewater, who is on the mend from a gruesome knee injury suffered in August 2016, all are due to become free agents this March.

    The national folks assume that Keenum is a slam dunk to return, either playing under the franchise tag or with a rich multiyear contract that he couldn’t have possibly expected when the career backup signed a one-year, $2 million contract with Minnesota last spring to serve as Bradford’s backup.

    Keenum, who will turn 30 on Feb. 17, was 11-3 as the Vikings’ starter, throwing for 3,547 yards with 22 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Keenum had never started more than nine games in his previous four seasons and his success, and likability, made for a great story.

    His teammates rallied around him and his struggles in the Vikings’ opening playoff game were overshadowed by his last-second 61-yard touchdown pass to Stefon Diggs that provided one of the most memorable moments in Vikings history.

    The feeling was that if Keenum had gotten the Vikings to the Super Bowl it would be impossible not to bring him back, even though Zimmer never seemed to be completely sold on him. Evidence that Zimmer lacked faith in Keenum was everywhere. He refused to name Keenum his starter for much of the season. He said Keenum had a “horseshoe” after a 24-7 win in November over the Rams. He said he became comfortable with Keenum “four or five weeks ago,” in late December.

    Zimmer seemed to always be ready for Keenum’s magic to disappear. That began to happen in the second half against the Saints. It was fully gone by Sunday as Keenum threw two interceptions and lost a fumble in the red zone against the Eagles.

    So where do Zimmer and the Vikings turn now?

    The feeling here is it won’t be to Keenum.

    As Zimmer refused to fully back Keenum, he made it clear that at some point Bridgewater was going to get his chance. Bridgewater had returned from the physically-unable-to-perform list in early November and the feeling was he might replace Keenum before the season was finished. He served as Keenum’s backup from Weeks 10-17.

    The best the Vikings did for Bridgewater was get him in for some mop-up duty in a last-season rout of Cincinnati.

    Let’s make one thing clear. This is not being written as a pro-Bridgewater column or a slam on Keenum. But there is no mistaking the fact that Zimmer and general manager Rick Spielman might see Keenum’s 2017 performance as being unrepeatable. Bridgewater also is Zimmer and Spielman’s guy.

    He’s the guy they drafted with the 32nd and final pick in the first round in 2014 and he’s the guy they anointed the starter early in his rookie season. Bridgewater remained the starter the following season as the Vikings won the NFC North. By all accounts, Bridgewater’s teammates love him and the coaching staff and front office might like him even more than that.

    The only question is what’s the status of Bridgewater’s left knee? The 25-year-old dislocated the knee and tore his ACL and other ligaments just before the 2016 season. Because outsiders aren’t allowed to watch the majority of in-season NFL practices only the Vikings know if Bridgewater resembles the same player who did not miss a start in 2015.

    Zimmer said Tuesday that there were “24 of these similar types of injuries through all sports,” and “half of them never came back.” He went on to explain that the earliest anyone had come back before Bridgewater was 24 months. “For him to even get to that point where he was and be able to come out and practice and compete in a game was a true credit to him,” Zimmer said.

    The information that Zimmer passed along on Bridgewater on Tuesday wasn’t simply an update. It also served as an indication that Bridgewater seeing extensive action this season would have been a very aggressive timetable and that having him play in 2018 would be far more realistic.

    “I think he’s doing good now,” Zimmer said of Bridgewater. “He’s at the point where he can play. You just have to work through figuring out where he’s at in that because obviously we didn’t get to see him through games.”

    There will be some who point out that it was Bradford, not Bridgewater, who served as Keenum’s backup in the playoffs. But that made sense given Bradford had started two games this season, playing extremely well in the opener against the Saints, and was familiar with offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur’s system.

    Shurmur, though, is gone. He was named coach of the New York Giants on Monday. Bradford, 30, almost certainly won’t be brought back given the concern about how his multi-surgically repaired left knee will hold up. Keenum figures to cash in on his big season but it’s far from a certainty it will be the Vikings rewarding him.

    That would leave the Vikings either looking outside for their next quarterback or deciding that Bridgewater is healthy enough to reclaim the role that had been his for two seasons. The Vikings would need to re-sign Bridgewater, but that likely wouldn’t be very difficult if it came with an opportunity to start.

    Would the move come with risk? Absolutely. But it also would give Zimmer and Spielman a chance to return the job to the guy they wanted to give it to in the first place.
    http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/20...t-trust-teddy/
    2017 Vikings Draft :
    41: Dalvin Cook RB Florida State
    70: Pat Elflein C Ohio State
    109: Jaleel Johnson DT Iowa
    120: Ben Gedeon LB Michigan
    170: Rodney Adams WR South Florida
    180: Danny Isidora G Miami
    201: Bucky Hodges TE Virginia Tech
    219: Stacy Coley WR Miami
    220: Ifeadi Odenigbo DE Northwestern
    232: Elijah Lee LB Kansas State
    245: Jack Tocho CB N.C. State

    #Faith

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    If Teddy is who the FO and coaches feel is best, ok. Certainly wouldn't be my choice but if it is him I hope he turns into the next GOAT. We shall see.
    I do wish we had gotten him more than just 2 throws of mopup duty this year. Would've been nice to get him a full half or something.

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    Ya I wish we would have been set the final game and he could have played the 2nd half. It almost sounds, while not rushed back too soon, he was way ahead of schedule. So this next offseason with camp he might be ready to roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacofunk64 View Post
    Ya I wish we would have been set the final game and he could have played the 2nd half. It almost sounds, while not rushed back too soon, he was way ahead of schedule. So this next offseason with camp he might be ready to roll.
    until i read differently i will go ahead thinking that teddys contract will toll over putting him on the roster for next year. with shurmer singing elis praises i doubt case turns up in ny with the midgets anyway. but i believe the vikes would keep one of bradford or keenam with a moderate 1 yr deal. use the #30 sellection on a qb and add some o line depth in fa and the draft signing a guard and a tackle in the draft and another o lineman in fa.with 65 to 70 mill in cap room they can add three to 5 players in the draft.

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