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    Official 2014 Offseason Roster & Transaction Discussion Thread

    It's time! So a tidbit or so of info and a question.

    Sixers will be playing in Orlando and Las Vegas Summer Leagues. Should MCW play?

    I think he should if just fit him and Noel and new rookies to build as much on court chemistry as possible.

    According to Pompey, the only Sixers team does not own rights to are James Anderson and Elliott Williams. I think that says virtually the entire roster might play in 1 of the 2 summer leagues.
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    Clooney breaks it down pretty good
    Expect dramatic changes in Sixers roster

    Bob Cooney April 22, 2014 3:01 AM



    WITH TWO first-round picks and five picks in the second round of the June 26 draft, there is little doubt the 76ers roster will look drastically different next season. Here's a look at who may be going and who may be staying:

    * Michael Carter-Williams ($2.3 million, signed through 2017-18):

    It seems to be a no-brainer that the soon-to-be-announced NBA rookie of the year will be back. But this time last year, I wrote about another young point guard who would be a key building block of the future in Jrue Holiday. He was gone a couple of months later. What if the Sixers fall to third or fourth in the draft and they decide the best available player is point guard Dante Exum? He hails from Australia (where Brett Brown coached for many years), and his dad was coached by Brown. Few know much about the kid, but Brown does. And he loves the kid. Just putting it out there.

    * Nerlens Noel ($3.17 million, signed through 2017-18):

    He will be here next season, making his NBA debut in a Sixers uniform at some point. The question surrounding Noel is this: Whom do you surround him with down low? Ideally you would like to have a hybrid, big-four man on offense who can step away from the basket and shoot the ball from the outside, yet is big and strong enough to defend the paint. Noel's best way of scoring still could be the way it was at Kentucky - follows, and running the break. Defensively, he'll be best-suited coming off his man and blocking shots, not bellying with bigger players in the paint.

    * Thaddeus Young ($9.16 million, player option for 2015-16):

    The name Danny Granger keeps popping into my mind when thinking what the Sixers will do with Young. The Sixers got Granger from the Pacers in a trade-day deal. The Sixers had to pay him the remainder of his $14 million contract (about $4 million). They could have signed and traded him in the offseason, but instead chose to buy him out and let him play somewhere else. If they were that generous to Granger, why wouldn't they afford the same option to Young, who has been such a great soldier? I think Young asks out and I think the Sixers accommodate him, if they can get a deal that's somewhat fair.

    * Arnett Moultrie ($1.14 million, team option for 2015-16):

    It would be a shock to think that Moultrie, suspended for five games late in the season for violating the league's anti-drug policy and in possession of a horrible attitude most of the season, would be back. He will have to show tremendous improvement in both his game and demeanor if the Sixers even think of bringing him back. I expect some sort of buyout.

    * Tony Wroten ($1.2 million, team option for 2015-16):

    I really think that Brown liked the improvement of Wroten throughout the season as he learned to play the game at a slower pace when needed. He is a big point guard (6-6) who gets to the rim as well as anyone. If he can improve his passing, realize he's not an outside shooter, and make close to 70 percent of his foul shots, he can be a very valuable asset.

    * Jason Richardson ($6.6 million player option):

    Brown loved the veteran, off-the-court leadership Richardson brought to the team this season. But Richardson never got on the court as he was recovering from major knee surgery performed late last season. He'll be 34 next season, and there are no guarantees his knee will allow him to compete at an NBA level again. Perhaps an injury-related buyout would be the best option for both parties.

    * B.J. Mullens ($1.06 million player option):

    Can't see him being here next season. Though he is a stretch big man offensively, who may work well with Noel in that way, he is not a paint defender. He doesn't really seem to fit in any scenario.

    * Elliot Williams ($981,000 team option):

    Another big guard (6-5), but he is an above-average defender. He improved significantly at the offensive end during the season, scoring in double figures in 10 of the last 12 games. For a team that needs tremendous improvement on the defensive end, I see Williams here next season.

    * Jarvis Varnado:

    He got most of his minutes late in the season backing up starter Henry Sims. Ideally for the Sixers, Sims will not be a starter next season, but a steady 15- to 20-minutes-a-night backup. That means there won't really be room for the shot-blocking Varnado.

    * James Anderson (free agent):

    He played in 80 games this season and started in 62 of them. Although he isn't really a long-shooting threat, he was the best that the Sixers had and shot 32.8 percent from three-point range with 115 makes. He averaged 10.1 points, but is probably better suited as a spark off the bench. He'll probably be given every chance to stick around.

    * Henry Sims (free agent):

    Perhaps no one on the ever-changing roster made a bigger impression than Sims. He started 25 of the 26 games after coming here on trade-day deal with Cleveland and averaged 11.8 points and seven rebounds. He'll most likely be here next season .

    * Brandon Davies (free agent):

    Not enough on either side of the court to warrant keeping him. Brown often talks of a player having an NBA skill set. I don't see Davies possessing a skill that will keep him around.

    * Hollis Thompson (free agent):

    He is one of the coach's favorites and there is potential. He led rookies in field-goal percentage from three-point range (40.1 percent). I see him sticking.

    * Casper Ware (free agent):

    Guard may be a spot where the Sixers will have ample numbers. His size (5-10) is a detriment, but his hustle and grit are more than admirable. I don't see him sticking, though.

    * Adonis Thomas (free agent):

    Another big wing with a real NBA body, Thomas will have to prove himself over the summer and in training camp. Still a question mark.

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    Aw bad news for our foreign prospects

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    @MyzzSpeakz Sounds like Aldemir and Kazemi could use more time overseas.

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    maybe they'd be better off in the d-league?

    are they playing against top level comp in europe?


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    They are wastin there time playing over seas vs inferior competition. Id imagine they woukd develope faster playing vs usa college talent and pros in the d league.

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    I think this is all part of the plan. @ guys with very distinguished rules that work for a championship caliber team like the Spurs. Why not let them stay a year or two until this team is ready for players like them.
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    Yo myles, edited the thread title and made this the usual offseason roster/transaction thread. I think this is how we usually do it. Hope you don't mind. And thanks for starting up the thread

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    what would u guys give up for jimmy butler? i watch him play and i think he could be the next iguodala type role player, but then i look at his fg% and 3pt% and I'm very weary. is he a guy who passes the eye test, but in reality is overrated? he posts a below average PER, but his defensive rating is really good.

    basically, what do u think he'd be worth on the open market? could we get him for thad? thad for butler boozer and a 1st rd pick in 2014 or 2015 (we get the pick for taking boozers last year allowing chicago to sign melo?).

    could his shaky shooting cause big problems with MCW? or would having a scorer like parker at the 3 make shooting much easier for both MCW and butler in the backcourt? i guess there is no right answer, cause its a hypothetical and it could easily go either way depending on the work butler and MCW would put into the jump shots and ball IQ of locating their spots and getting open.

    basically i really like jimmy butler regardless of some glaring holes in his game.... thad for boozer butler and a 1st looks mighty nice to me.... plus boozers expiring in 2015 and basically doesn't hurt any of our short term or long term cap situation unless hankie wants to sign someone big this summer.... and either way wed still have cap room.


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    Bulter can probably become an ariza. Think he got too much on his plate too early. No rose. Replacing deng. I don't think they would have much interest in that trade. They moved deng so butler could be featured. They still wouldn't have a 2 and now a 3 they can lean on. Maybe they plan to resign deng.

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    i don't know if any of that is true regarding to them featuring butler... and if it is, he hasn't exactly done a good job.

    id think they moved deng as more of a cap clearing move on a lost season without rose, i doubt featuring jimmy butler had much to do with it.

    i also think saving another 9 million by moving butler and boozer for thad opens up space for them to bring in carmelo, which i think they'd prefer a rose, melo, noah lineup to anything involving jimmy butler and carlos boozer. plus adding thad gives them a guy who can not only share a front court with melo, but can also play effective in a rose, thad, gibson, noah lineup... assuming thad can hit open 3s.


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    i think Butler is a little overrated and will surely get overpaid. i dont think the bulls have any interest in that trade since the can amnesty boozer anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-ONE-5 View Post
    i think Butler is a little overrated and will surely get overpaid. i dont think the bulls have any interest in that trade since the can amnesty boozer anyway
    yeah, they can amnesty boozer and pay him 16.8 million dollars, but the money still counts against their cap, they just don't have to pay the luxury tax bill, so they won't be able to make any moves in free agency.

    if the bulls are serious about building their team around rose and noah, they have to find a team under the cap willing to take boozers last year, thats how they open up cap space to sign carmelo... if they did that trade that would get their cap number for next season down to something like 54million.... not enough to get melo, but enough to make it interesting.... they could maneuver like the rockets did to sign howard.

    the more i think about it the more it makes sense for both sides. this deal gets them 10mil under the cap for next season, and if they move dunleavy for nothing then thats another 3mil. its not a perfect plan, but its a start.... they may have to make this a 3 way sign and trade deal, assuming that melo would want to go to chicago, and the knicks have interest in thaddeus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BChydro86 View Post
    yeah, they can amnesty boozer and pay him 16.8 million dollars, but the money still counts against their cap, they just don't have to pay the luxury tax bill, so they won't be able to make any moves in free agency.

    if the bulls are serious about building their team around rose and noah, they have to find a team under the cap willing to take boozers last year, thats how they open up cap space to sign carmelo... if they did that trade that would get their cap number for next season down to something like 54million.... not enough to get melo, but enough to make it interesting.... they could maneuver like the rockets did to sign howard.

    the more i think about it the more it makes sense for both sides. this deal gets them 10mil under the cap for next season, and if they move dunleavy for nothing then thats another 3mil. its not a perfect plan, but its a start.... they may have to make this a 3 way sign and trade deal, assuming that melo would want to go to chicago, and the knicks have interest in thaddeus.
    Actually the money doesn't count against their cap so.... yeah.

    For the first five years of the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, each team will be permitted to waive one of its player contracts that was in effect prior to the 2011-12 season and have 100 percent of the player's salary removed from the team's salary for salary cap and tax purposes.

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    is that true? cause thats not how it was when they did the first amnesty when we cut aaron mckie.

    just looked that up myself, i guess i was wrong.

    still think the bulls would rather not pay boozer 16.8 million to go away.
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    amnesty would be pointless if it still counted against the cap. thats we hit Brand with it

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