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    Tommy John

    13 pitchers will or have had Tommy John surgery this year....Last season the total was 16....

    I don't care how conservative teams are with their prospects or young starters already in the league....Their elbow's can either handle the stresses of constantly throwing or it cannot....These young starters or relievers have been well guarded since they were drafted...And every year we see more and more Tommy John surgeries or just pitchers with very sore elbows.....And bringing up a prized prospect slowly guarantees nothing with keeping their elbow or shoulder healthy...
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    Point of this thread in a Yankees forum?

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    Thomas Jonathon is a good friend of mine
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    It's a fair point. Protecting them is not working. I'm no doc, but I bet there is a strong correlation between increased incidents of TJ and average fastball velocity increasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Thomas Jonathon is a good friend of mine
    Thought he was your boyfriend?

    Can't believe I took Mush off ignore to read this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    Thought he was your boyfriend?
    We broke up. We are still close though. Friends with benefits. Shhhhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Thomas Jonathon is a good friend of mine
    I though he was known for his bat?



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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    Point of this thread in a Yankees forum?
    And what is the point of a Fantasy Baseball thread in the Yankee forum? Cut the BS! You are too critical at times.....
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    Yeah it seems like with more and more protection and pitch counts and inning limits come more surgeries. I'd like to see two even young pitchers, identical in size and throwing the same velocity and pitch types be treated in opposite ways, one given the babying we see now and the other allowed to throw as many pitches as he can with no limits and see what happens over a few years.

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    Something to consider is that all of these kids have adjustments made to their motions to "correct" them.
    Whenever you put the body into a new position and do repetitive movements with different angles, you create a situation where you stress a new part of the body.

    I would be curious to see how many kids would get this surgery if left alone with their own specific style.
    Maybe it shortens their career by a couple of years but is that equal to the time lost recovering from the surgery?

    Another thought is that this surgery is being used preventatively or for potential improvement in velocity. Both of these are a bit scary seeing the trickle down effect of high school kids getting the surgery preemptively.

    I wonder what the rules will be when they develop synthetic tendons.



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    players are going to start pre-emptively getting this done
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    Thought he was your boyfriend?

    Can't believe I took Mush off ignore to read this thread.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Something to consider is that all of these kids have adjustments made to their motions to "correct" them.
    Whenever you put the body into a new position and do repetitive movements with different angles, you create a situation where you stress a new part of the body
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    I would be curious to see how many kids would get this surgery if left alone with their own specific style.
    Maybe it shortens their career by a couple of years but is that equal to the time lost recovering from the surgery?

    Another thought is that this surgery is being used preventatively or for potential improvement in velocity. Both of these are a bit scary seeing the trickle down effect of high school kids getting the surgery preemptively.

    I wonder what the rules will be when they develop synthetic tendons.
    Agreed. And to top it off, when you consider that everything about pitching a baseball is completely unnatural to the body, more specifically the arm, it's a perfect recipe for this type of problem.
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    wtf I don't remember Randy Johnson or Nolan Ryan or any of the fireballers of yester-year ever needing Tommy John it's not like these guys are all throwing 102MPH I don't remember 95MPH guys needing it with such regularity.

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