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    How Bad Is Anthony's Shoulder?

    Extent of Damage Remains Unknown
    By CHRIS HERRING

    Despite the apparent severity of his shoulder injury, the Knicks have not said whether Carmelo Anthony has undergone an MRI.

    Heading into Friday's must-win game in Toronto against the Raptors, things are as bleak as can be for the Knicks.

    Beyond the fact that the team is on the brink of playoff elimination, Carmelo Anthony is still hampered by the injured shooting shoulder that he has variously described as a "dead arm" and a "deep bruise."

    If it seems like Anthony doesn't actually know what's wrong with his shoulder, well, the Knicks might not know, either. First, the organization called Anthony's injury a "strained right shoulder," and said X-ray results had come back negative. But the Knicks, who have been off since Sunday's loss in Miami, still haven't given Anthony a more-detailed MRI exam, which could highlight any ligament or tissue damage.

    The decision to bypass the MRI has left fans to wonder why the Knicks seem content with knowing less, rather than more, about the health of their best player. It's clear that Anthony hasn't been himself since suffering the injury. He has shot just 3-of-15 when left wide-open in the Knicks' past two games (both losses), with his outside jumpers getting an average of 14.3 feet of arc, a half foot less than in his first 73 games of the year, according to SportVU player-tracking technology. Those numbers back Anthony's rationale for not attempting a single fourth-quarter shot in Miami: He couldn't generate the power.

    One can hardly blame coach Mike Woodson, who is fighting to hold onto his job, for using an injured Anthony the same way he would a healthy Anthony. But it is surprising how little Woodson knows about the player he's putting on the court.

    "Only Melo knows the severity of his pain," said Woodson. "If he tells me he's hurt, and that he can't play, it's my job to sit him. But I don't know that he would ever tell me that."

    Understanding the depth of Anthony's shoulder injury is vital for both sides. The Knicks have to decide how much the 29-year-old forward, who will be a free agent after the season, is worth on the market. Similarly, Anthony should be concerned about whether he could do any further damage to his shooting shoulder before going into free agency. (He partially tore the labrum and rotator cuff in his left shoulder at the end of last season, an injury the Knicks either didn't initially use an MRI test for, or didn't announce at the time.)

    So why did Anthony bypass the MRI for this latest injury? A team's medical officials usually decide which tests a player will or won't undergo, so there is a chance that the Knicks' staff, which wasn't made available to comment for this article, simply decided against examining Anthony's shoulder more closely.

    Anthony has a history of reluctance when it comes to medical procedures and exams that might highlight a need for surgery. Last season, when it was clear he needed to have fluid in his sore left knee drained, he played through the discomfort at first and acknowledged his fear of needles. "I'd rather get the natural treatment and see if the fluid can drain out by itself," he said at the time. He also chose to let his left shoulder heal on its own rather than undergoing a procedure to fix it.

    There's also the possibility that Anthony did in fact undergo an MRI exam, but team officials, invoking the HIPAA privacy law, are shielding results from the media. It wouldn't be the first time: When Anthony had knee and elbow surgeries in 2011, the Knicks never announced them. Amar'e Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert also had knee procedures in 2013 that the Knicks never announced, presumably for the same reason.

    After suffering a knee injury in Denver last March, center Tyson Chandler suggested that MRIs weren't necessary for veteran players who could gauge the seriousness of their injuries. "I know my body," he said.

    But what about rookies? Last week in Utah, for example, rookie Tim Hardaway, Jr. hurt his left ankle so badly that he was initially taken out of the X-ray room in a wheelchair. Hardaway couldn't put any weight on the ankle, and said he had "never had an injury like that," but again, the team never performed an MRI on his ankle. (Hardaway did not miss any time with the injury, though, prompting Woodson to say he was "surprised," given how badly Hardaway appeared to be hurt.)

    Everything in Anthony's multimillion-dollar shooting shoulder may be fine in a few weeks with some rest and recovery. But with Anthony shooting terribly as the team fades from contention, and with a franchise-altering free-agent decision a few weeks away, there is no reason why the Knicks shouldn't be investigating the depth of the problem.
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...HRIS%2BHERRING

    Knicks are still hiding injuries from fans, seems like a policy that won't change even with Phil Jackson.

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    Who cares, he only has 4 games left with the knicks anyway.
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    we'll see tomorrow if he's hurt or not I doubt he'd be out ther playing with a major injury in a contract year



    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86 View Post
    Jared Dudley>>>>>>Melo.

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    It's probably minor. Every time the guy has a bad game he starts cringing for the cameras and then that's his excuse.

    I'm honestly not sure whether he's actually hurt when he complains, or if he just comes up with a reason to justify his bad game(s). My gut tells me it's the latter of the 2.


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    Melo had this same excuse last yr while losing to indy...

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    Forget melo's shoulder. why knicks didn't tell us bargs and k-mart were out for the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamzoka View Post
    Forget melo's shoulder. why knicks didn't tell us bargs and k-mart were out for the season.
    Exactly this isn't just about Melo it's every single player, the fans deserve to know when these guys go under the knife, or out for the season. If I was a season ticket holder I would want to know the extent of these injuries.

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    The man is hurt, they might as well sit him we could barely beat Toronto with a healthy Melo, let alone with an injured Melo. The fat lady has already sung and is now eating a cheeseburger with Felton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    It's probably minor. Every time the guy has a bad game he starts cringing for the cameras and then that's his excuse.

    I'm honestly not sure whether he's actually hurt when he complains, or if he just comes up with a reason to justify his bad game(s). My gut tells me it's the latter of the 2.
    LOL, GTFO with this nonsense. Give me one example of this please....I'll be waiting.

    Last year he had a crappy stretch of games, stormed off the court, ended up needed his knee drained and came back a different player INSTANTLY. Last playoff he tore his ****ing labrum. Its not that hard to see someone get hurt on the court - and there was a clear instance when he ****ed his shoulder up again a few games ago - the same exact shoulder he tore last year and didn't get surgery on.

    "I'm honestly not sure if he's hurt when he complains (despite it being obvious and/or confirmed), so I'll just assume he's not"
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    Melo has never played well injured, he's just not one of those guys. But its pretty damn obvious when he IS injured, and this is obviously one of those times, especially considering he needed 4-6 months of rehab to fix this same shoulder last year after opting not to go under the knife. I also don't think there is an injury that would effect your game more than injuring your shooting shoulder.
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    Well we kinda knew this was gonna happen sometime soon for Melo don't we? I mentioned this weeks ago...

    As for the privacy thing I don't get it either but I'm not familiar with the HIPPA law. Here's what I got:
    The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for individually identifiable health information held by covered entities and their business associates and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of health information needed for patient care and other important purposes.
    http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/


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    Our medical staff sucks its borderline scary


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    HIPAA basically privacy protection for anyone who undergoes a medical procedure (or any of their personal health information for that matter). Doctors need a "disclosure agreement" just to share your information with your parents if your over 12 years old. Employees on their company medical plans are heavily protected, they have no obligation to share any information with anyone, let alone the public.
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    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    I'll bet anyone on this board that he gets surgery after he signs his extension...


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    Quote Originally Posted by cssdmark View Post
    The man is hurt, they might as well sit him we could barely beat Toronto with a healthy Melo, let alone with an injured Melo. The fat lady has already sung and is now eating a cheeseburger with Felton.


    with a side of Pig feet...


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