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    PAT from the 20

    Does anyone else think that moving the point after touchdown back but keeping the two point conversion from the 2 yard line is a distinct advantage to cold weather outdoor teams?

    The rule change was suggested by New England. So who is going to benefit the most from that type of rule change? 40 yard kicks will be easy for the teams in dome, but on snowy windy days up North, it's a total advantage to those teams. I know it's a trial for the preseason but it really would have an effect in the playoffs.

    New England doesn't want to get caught cheating so why not make up the rules.

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    No, They've been doing the 2 point conversion since the 1960's. It's not some new rule or something lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavsUCCB View Post
    Does anyone else think that moving the point after touchdown back but keeping the two point conversion from the 2 yard line is a distinct advantage to cold weather outdoor teams?

    The rule change was suggested by New England. So who is going to benefit the most from that type of rule change? 40 yard kicks will be easy for the teams in dome, but on snowy windy days up North, it's a total advantage to those teams. I know it's a trial for the preseason but it really would have an effect in the playoffs...
    So, both teams don't have to play by the same rule? why would it be an advantage for either team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MavsUCCB View Post
    Does anyone else think that moving the point after touchdown back but keeping the two point conversion from the 2 yard line is a distinct advantage to cold weather outdoor teams?

    The rule change was suggested by New England. So who is going to benefit the most from that type of rule change? 40 yard kicks will be easy for the teams in dome, but on snowy windy days up North, it's a total advantage to those teams. I know it's a trial for the preseason but it really would have an effect in the playoffs.

    New England doesn't want to get caught cheating so why not make up the rules.

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    You don't think having the point after pushed back to the 20 equals an advantage to cold weather teams late in the year. Take a team like San Diego going to New England in the playoffs, all of a sudden the Chargers on a stormy day have to go for 2 after every touchdown, while New England probably been going for 2 since Week 13 since that weather is disgusting. Its a Patriots advantage worked into the game.

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    and I'd add if they do push the PAT back to the 20 yard line, they should push the 2 point convert back to the 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MavsUCCB View Post
    You don't think having the point after pushed back to the 20 equals an advantage to cold weather teams late in the year. Take a team like San Diego going to New England in the playoffs, all of a sudden the Chargers on a stormy day have to go for 2 after every touchdown, while New England probably been going for 2 since Week 13 since that weather is disgusting. Its a Patriots advantage worked into the game.
    The silliest argument I have ever heard.

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    BB may have outsmarted the entire NFL on this one but he's not getting anything by MavsUCCB!!!!!

    Seriously though, do you even realize that this hasn't been made a rule yet? They're trying it out for the first 2 weeks of the pre-season to see what effect it has on the extra point %. The idea is to try and drop the kick from a 99% conversion rate to something that at least makes the play worth executing rather than a gimmie. And kicking it from the 20 certainly doesn't mean that a team has to go for 2 on every attempt in the cold. If you really think that you can't watch much football.


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    I can see it being more of a factor when team A is down 28-35 and scores a last-second TD. being down 34-35 at the end of the game would put a lot of pressure on the kicker to make that XP.
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    The cold weather team already has an advantage in your scenario because they are at home. Why not complain about that?

    It effects both teams equally, a 37 yard kick is not that difficult in any stadium unless the wind is whipping or you have a situation like the Lions and Eagles game this past year. Those are not frequent occurrences though and again, both teams are effected by it.

    Every team practices 2-point conversions or 2-yard plays, they game plan for them no matter what the weather is. I don't see one team having a huge advantage over another just because of geography. Obviously some teams are better equipped at picking up 2 point conversions than others, but that's all about player personnel.

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    stupoid. no one watches football for the extra point. they should have left it alone
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    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...-extended-PATs

    Explained pretty well by the man himself.

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    As far as teams playing well in cold weather, I am not buying any of it. Now, if someone wants to make the case that some players arenít bothered by weather or are less bothered by weather, I might accept that. Tom Brady has a history of not letting the weather bother him. He has a special body insulating suit he wears. Whether that is part of it or not, who can say? Before the trade to the Patriots, Blount played his entire career with the Bucs. He had an excellent 3 game stretch in inclement weather at the end of the 2013 season. Why was that? Was it because he was on the Patriots or is he a guy that weather just doesnít bother him?

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