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    Are all the TEs in this years draft lousy prospects?

    Are all the TEs in this years draft lousy prospects?

    This writer seems to think so.

    Anyone know a lot about these players? Care to give an evaluation?

    BTW, here is how Mayock has the top 5 TEs. Are any of them can't miss players? Are any of them actually 1st round players?

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    1. Eric Ebron, North Carolina
    2. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
    3. Jace Amaro, Texas Tech
    4. Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
    5. C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa
    NFL executive blasts Eric Ebron, entire TE draft class

    By Chase Goodbread
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    Published: March 31, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
    Updated: March 31, 2014 at 10:58 a.m.


    The entire draft class of tight ends is a weak one, according to one NFL personnel executive, and the fool's gold starts at the top with North Carolina's Eric Ebron. The former Tar Heel is widely regarded as the draft's top prospect at the position and has been projected as high as the No. 9 overall pick to the Buffalo Bills, but at least one club will have a strong voice against him when his name comes up.

    "He's OK. He's completely overrated, and he's a pain in the (butt)," an AFC personnel executive told nj.com. "And don't ask him to block anybody, because he's not going to do it."

    Now there's someone who wouldn't touch Ebron with a pick anywhere near as high as No. 9. Ebron has also been projected to the New York Giants at No. 12 by NFL Media analyst Daniel Jeremiah, and No. 17 to the Baltimore Ravens by analyst Charles Davis. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but Ebron didn't even catch the worst of it. Washington's Austin Seferian-Jenkins, potentially a second-round pick, wasn't spared, either.

    "He's more overrated and a bigger pain in the (butt) than the other guy," he said. "And he blocks like a wide receiver. I don't want any part of him."

    The same exec went on to devalue the entire class at the position, which includes another potential first-round pick in Texas Tech's Jace Amaro, a second-round projection in Notre Dame's Troy Niklas, and a projected second-day pick in Iowa's C.J. Fiedorowicz.

    "It's not good at all. I wish it was. But it's not," he added. "It's actually a bad year for tight ends. There's nobody even close to (Tyler) Eifert (drafted No. 21 by Bengals last year). (Eagles 2013 second-rounder Zach) Ertz is better than these guys."

    It can certainly be argued that the tight end class is thin on depth, particularly for clubs in search of an in-line blocker at the position, rather than the slot-type receiving tight end that has taken a commanding presence in more than a few NFL offenses.

    If Ebron is headed for Bustville, however, it will come as a surprise to the other scouts nj.com spoke with.
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    It's a year of many athletic TEs but I don't know that any of them are refined as an in-line TE whatsoever (blocking or routes). Ones that do have any of that experience are then lacking in other areas. Just a very iffy class.

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    I like the tight end class. I'd say 1 will go round 1(ebron). I'd say 4 will go by end of round 3.

    The Iowa guy is a better blocker than receiver atm.

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    This "executive" sounds like a real meathead. Welcome to the twenty-first century, bud. Where tight ends aren't relegated to just blocking. I wonder what this fool thinks of Jimmy Graham.

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    I actually like this tight end class a good bit. I don't agree with this guy's assessment at all.

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    I agree that Ebron is overrated. He has hands problems and his blocking needs a lot of work.

    Amaro has very little experience playing in-line, and his numbers were inflated due to the way he was used. He should be a 2nd-3rd round prospect.

    ASJ's blocking is pretty bad from what I've seen, and he's pretty slow. He lacks quick-twitch to his game. He at least has more experience in-line than Ebron and Amaro, but it doesn't really matter much since he doesn't block well.

    I like Niklas quite a bit, and I feel like should get more attention. Has very good potential as an all-around TE who can run the seam and be effective as an in-line blocker.

    I think CJF can be a very good possession TE who blocks very well. That has a lot of value to me.

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    I've been saying this all along. I like Niklas in the second round, Fiedorowicz in the fourth, but I wouldn't take the others. Ebron is a jerk who was supposed to be this athletic phenom but didn't show it at all at the Combine. He can't/won't block, and is undersized for the position. Basically a jumbo wide receiver with average speed and poor hands. Same can be said of Amaro, in particular, and Seferan-Jenkins to a lesser degree. S-J probably has the best all round skills of the group but he's a bit of a lazy dog. Not as full of himself as Ebron, but not the easiest guy to get along with.

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    I actually think it's the best TE class in years.

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    TE has gone from a position of where you are used as an extra tackle and underneath pass catcher, to now where they are pass catching specialists. With the new rules they have shifted in what they do because there is less risk for them to go over the middle. Add in who covers the 6'4" 250 guy? The 6' 200 pound safety who's not as strong? The 6'3" 260 LB who's no where fast enough?

    This all ties together as to why average WR's, TE's, QB's are starting to look like stars when 10 years ago we wouldn't bat an eye at those guys.
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    It's fool's gold to go after a tight end who can't block or play in line. You have an added receiving threat, but no running game and less time for the quarterback to get the ball out to the receivers. Why not just go with three wide receivers if that is what you want? An third wideout is more dangerous than a one dimensional tight end in most cases.

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    Well if you are talking about top TEs as far as talent wise Colt Lyera is #1. Probably will go late or undrafted but he still is the #1 TE talent wise in this draft. Was the #1 TE coming into the college season. He can block, catch, play in the slot, and even has played some RB. As far as looking for the best TE in the draft is Colt if he has improved mentally from his collapse and quit using coke.

    Colt in my opinion will be like Burcift(probably spelled wrong) and go un drafted and become a starter his rookie year. Colt straight out has talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterNRoss View Post
    Well if you are talking about top TEs as far as talent wise Colt Lyera is #1. Probably will go late or undrafted but he still is the #1 TE talent wise in this draft. Was the #1 TE coming into the college season. He can block, catch, play in the slot, and even has played some RB. As far as looking for the best TE in the draft is Colt if he has improved mentally from his collapse and quit using coke.

    Colt in my opinion will be like Burcift(probably spelled wrong) and go un drafted and become a starter his rookie year. Colt straight out has talent.
    Vontez Burfect at least had a couple of great college seasons to make you think he might succeed in the NFL. Lyerla has done nothing but get hurt and screw up off the field. His athletic numbers were pretty decent for a guy who didn't go through much training, though.
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    Mike Evans is a better blocker than any of the top tight ends in this class, other than Troy Niklas maybe. I wonder if Mike might end up moving inside. He is already over 230 pounds, and he's just 20 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dog View Post
    Vontez Burfect at least had a couple of great college seasons to make you think he might succeed in the NFL. Lyerla has done nothing but get hurt and screw up off the field. His athletic numbers were pretty decent for a guy who didn't go through much training, though.
    If you watched tape on Colt he is very athletic. Because of his off field issues he doesnt get a lot of attention but he is more talented and more athletic then any other TE out there. Sure his numbers weren't amazing but Orgeon had a lot of different targets and Colt was just among them. Plus like I stated he was projected a top 15 pick going into this college season yet because of his off fields fell off. If Colt goes undrafted he will have the best chance to be a top performer his rookie season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dog View Post
    Mike Evans is a better blocker than any of the top tight ends in this class, other than Troy Niklas maybe. I wonder if Mike might end up moving inside. He is already over 230 pounds, and he's just 20 years old.
    Evans reminds me of Vincent Jackson. Evans made Manziel look as good as he did last season. Evans hands and skill are better then people give him credit for. I dont see Evans as a good fit at TE. At WR he will do just fine if not great.
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