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    Stephen A Smith goes in on the REAL reason we're a joke......James Dolan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIBVzl6zs_I



    Love him or hate him, from the 0:00 mark, to the 1:46 mark, Stephen A Smith is 100% correct. James Dolan has got to go. If Dolan is still our real GM (because we already know that he doesn't want an independent group of basketball professionals....and if he is forced to do it, he'll run them out of town) then we're doomed to be a joke, regardless of our coach (Woodson leaving or staying does nothing to solve our problems right now).

    If Melo leaves, Dolan will just overpay a known name, get us knee deep in cap space with mediocre talent, and give away our picks, meaning we'll have ANOTHER decade of being a joke.

    And Stephan A is correct....Dolan is a worse owner than Jerry Jones, because at least Jones can claim rings and playoff appearances....Dolan can only claim to have taken a team that had a decade of constant contention (the 90's) to the bottom of the league. And when Walsh came and fixed it, Dolan still found a way to stick his ugly nose in, forced his own people on Walsh, and chased him away.
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    The fact of the matter is Dolan, Walsh, and Grunwald ruined this team.

    When Walsh first got here, he had a brilliant plan. Clear as much cap space as possible and go after lebron and another star, but once Lebron signed with the heat, he failed, because he didn't have a back up plan.
    He traded an unprotected 1st rd for tmac, traded young talent (J. Crawford, ZBO, D. Lee. Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov) without bringing back a single pick. He passed on Demar Derozen, B. Jennings, Ty Lawson, Jru Holiday, Taj Gibson for some dude name Jordan Hill and then the following year he passed on Stevenson twice for Landry fields and Rautins. To put the ice on the cake, he picked up Billups option then waste our amnesty clause on him 2 months later.


    Now for Grunwald.... He is part of the reason why we're so bad. (This. Is. His. Team.) This is the team he put together. Melo asked for help. He went and traded a first rd pick for a player that was about to be amnesty. He's the one who gave Jr that stupid contract when no other team wanted his service.

    For Woodson... uuummmm no need to beat a dead horse. Im just gon leave him alone

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    Stephen A is the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamzoka View Post
    The fact of the matter is Dolan, Walsh, and Grunwald ruined this team.

    When Walsh first got here, he had a brilliant plan. Clear as much cap space as possible and go after lebron and another star, but once Lebron signed with the heat, he failed, because he didn't have a back up plan.
    He traded an unprotected 1st rd for tmac, traded young talent (J. Crawford, ZBO, D. Lee. Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov) without bringing back a single pick. He passed on Demar Derozen, B. Jennings, Ty Lawson, Jru Holiday, Taj Gibson for some dude name Jordan Hill and then the following year he passed on Stevenson twice for Landry fields and Rautins. To put the ice on the cake, he picked up Billups option then waste our amnesty clause on him 2 months later.


    Now for Grunwald.... He is part of the reason why we're so bad. (This. Is. His. Team.) This is the team he put together. Melo asked for help. He went and traded a first rd pick for a player that was about to be amnesty. He's the one who gave Jr that stupid contract when no other team wanted his service.

    For Woodson... uuummmm no need to beat a dead horse. Im just gon leave him alone

    Knicks got Carmelo for Gallo, Chandler and Mozgov.

    Also I think It's common knowledge that Walsh was against that trade. He was strong armed by that incompetent bufoon known as James Dolan.

    Donnie Walsh was the only real basketball mind the Knicks had and Dolan pushed him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamzoka View Post
    The fact of the matter is Dolan, Walsh, and Grunwald ruined this team.

    When Walsh first got here, he had a brilliant plan. Clear as much cap space as possible and go after lebron and another star, but once Lebron signed with the heat, he failed, because he didn't have a back up plan.
    He traded an unprotected 1st rd for tmac, traded young talent (J. Crawford, ZBO, D. Lee. Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov) without bringing back a single pick. He passed on Demar Derozen, B. Jennings, Ty Lawson, Jru Holiday, Taj Gibson for some dude name Jordan Hill and then the following year he passed on Stevenson twice for Landry fields and Rautins. To put the ice on the cake, he picked up Billups option then waste our amnesty clause on him 2 months later.


    Now for Grunwald.... He is part of the reason why we're so bad. (This. Is. His. Team.) This is the team he put together. Melo asked for help. He went and traded a first rd pick for a player that was about to be amnesty. He's the one who gave Jr that stupid contract when no other team wanted his service.

    For Woodson... uuummmm no need to beat a dead horse. Im just gon leave him alone
    That was Grunwald not Walsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanksrock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lamzoka View Post
    The fact of the matter is Dolan, Walsh, and Grunwald ruined this team.

    When Walsh first got here, he had a brilliant plan. Clear as much cap space as possible and go after lebron and another star, but once Lebron signed with the heat, he failed, because he didn't have a back up plan.
    He traded an unprotected 1st rd for tmac, traded young talent (J. Crawford, ZBO, D. Lee. Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov) without bringing back a single pick. He passed on Demar Derozen, B. Jennings, Ty Lawson, Jru Holiday, Taj Gibson for some dude name Jordan Hill and then the following year he passed on Stevenson twice for Landry fields and Rautins. To put the ice on the cake, he picked up Billups option then waste our amnesty clause on him 2 months later.


    Now for Grunwald.... He is part of the reason why we're so bad. (This. Is. His. Team.) This is the team he put together. Melo asked for help. He went and traded a first rd pick for a player that was about to be amnesty. He's the one who gave Jr that stupid contract when no other team wanted his service.

    For Woodson... uuummmm no need to beat a dead horse. Im just gon leave him alone
    Knicks got Carmelo for Gallo, Chandler and Mozgov.

    Also I think It's common knowledge that Walsh was against that trade. He was strong armed by that incompetent bufoon known as James Dolan.

    Donnie Walsh was the only real basketball mind the Knicks had and Dolan pushed him away.
    100% correct. It upsets me how fans don't remember this whole Melo deal from just a few years ago. Walsh was convinced that Melo could be had in the summer without losing pieces. Hell, the Knicks were in the drivers seat, because they had the cap space, and all the possibilities in the world at the time, even if Melo didn't sign with us.

    Then Dolan stuck his ugly nose into the negotiations, forced Walsh to hurry up the trade, and he even gave away extra pieces to the Nuggets without them even asking (Dolan negotiating against himself AGAIN....).

    And Dolan even forced Amare Stoudemire on us. Reports at the time were that Walsh wasn't too keen on rushing to give Amare a max contract, but Dolan FORCED him to do it (Dolan likes having "known names" here, and he thinks that's all it takes to win). I'm not saying Walsh wasn't looking at Amare, but he wasn't in a rush to just offer a max deal. Dolan was. Therefore Amare was signed.

    Walsh's plan was beyond "just get LeBron and it's all good". Walsh was ALWAYS bothered by Dolan. Walsh wasn't allowed to get his own people (real basketball professionals) into the front office team because Dolan wouldn't permit it. Dolan only wanted his "yes-men" in there. Dolan even almost was able to force Isiah onto Walsh.

    There are a ton of younger fans here who have little to zero idea of who James Dolan is, and what he has done to us. Please read the first post in this thread to educate yourselves on what Dolan has done here:

    http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...Mr-James-Dolan!!!!

    Stephen A Smith got to the root of the problem, and that root is James Dolan.

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    Speaking of Donnie Walsh.. The knicks were so bad that David Stern had to push Dolan into signing a basketball minded manager to this team.. How bad can basketball in NY get though? The Knicks are an embarrassment to not only knicks fans but they are an embarrassment to be representing the National Basketball Association.. To make everyone more pissed, Dolan will NEVER sell this team..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyKnicks126 View Post
    Speaking of Donnie Walsh.. The knicks were so bad that David Stern had to push Dolan into signing a basketball minded manager to this team.. How bad can basketball in NY get though? The Knicks are an embarrassment to not only knicks fans but they are an embarrassment to be representing the National Basketball Association.. To make everyone more pissed, Dolan will NEVER sell this team..
    That fact is heartbreaking because it's true.
    I wonder if the NBA has the same type of clause that MLB has. One that states if the ownership is bad for the sport, they can be forced to sell.
    One can wish...


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    If Donnie walsh is so great why did he suck at drafting and trades. Took naps when other teams were selling draft picks. I didn't see walsh do anything positive for Knicks. He hired dantoni and traded most of the draft picks. Failed to build a roster that would bring superstars here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace137 View Post
    That was Grunwald not Walsh.
    Youre 50% correct. Walsh picked up Billups option... Grunwald amnestied him. Both were stupid moves.


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    Once Dolan ran Ernie Grunfeld (who's really doing a good job down in DC) out of town, it's been all downhill.

    I have said soooo many times how Donnie Walsh is praised for simply not being Isiah but his moves were terrible. Revisionist history will claim that we were going to get Melo + keep our roster in tact even though it was clear since training camp of that year that Ujiri was going to deal him at the deadline. The Nets offer was on table, but he held out to get a better long term package from us. Revisionists will also say that we could've landed DWill if we didn't get Melo even though we did not have a young lottery pick and pg to dangle in from of Utah.

    You can look at Donnie's track record in Indy (remember he didn't build the contender they have now) and see why they never won a ring because of some shakey deals.

    When it's all said and done, we are stuck with what we have until a #1 pick comes along to make us all forget about that we have the worst owner in the league (a la Blake Griffin and Donald Sterling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezy View Post
    Youre 50% correct. Walsh picked up Billups option... Grunwald amnestied him. Both were stupid moves.
    picking up the option was smart...his 14million expiring would've been a great trading piece not to mention he did very well while he was with us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpgmaster86 View Post
    picking up the option was smart...his 14million expiring would've been a great trading piece not to mention he did very well while he was with us...


    I wonder when the Great Expiring Contract Myth will die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamzoka View Post
    The fact of the matter is Dolan, Walsh, and Grunwald ruined this team.

    When Walsh first got here, he had a brilliant plan. Clear as much cap space as possible and go after lebron and another star, but once Lebron signed with the heat, he failed, because he didn't have a back up plan.
    He traded an unprotected 1st rd for tmac, traded young talent (J. Crawford, ZBO, D. Lee. Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov) without bringing back a single pick. He passed on Demar Derozen, B. Jennings, Ty Lawson, Jru Holiday, Taj Gibson for some dude name Jordan Hill and then the following year he passed on Stevenson twice for Landry fields and Rautins. To put the ice on the cake, he picked up Billups option then waste our amnesty clause on him 2 months later.


    Now for Grunwald.... He is part of the reason why we're so bad. (This. Is. His. Team.) This is the team he put together. Melo asked for help. He went and traded a first rd pick for a player that was about to be amnesty. He's the one who gave Jr that stupid contract when no other team wanted his service.

    For Woodson... uuummmm no need to beat a dead horse. Im just gon leave him alone
    Walsh didn't do those deals...Dolan did That's why Walsh left

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanksrock View Post
    Knicks got Carmelo for Gallo, Chandler and Mozgov.

    Also I think It's common knowledge that Walsh was against that trade. He was strong armed by that incompetent bufoon known as James Dolan.

    Donnie Walsh was the only real basketball mind the Knicks had and Dolan pushed him away.
    and our #1 this yr which will be a lottery pick. Dolan pulled the trigger on this deal..Not Walsh

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