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    Ike Davis concealed oblique injury in 2013

    Davis kept Amazin’s in dark over injury during 2013 struggles

    PORT ST. LUCIE — Ike Davis concealed an oblique injury from Mets officials for most of last season because of bad timing and the fact he was struggling and didn’t want to surrender his spot in the lineup, the beleaguered first baseman told The Post on Sunday.

    Ultimately, his season concluded on Aug. 31 in Washington when the oblique “popped,” but Davis’ issues with the muscle began in mid-May and got to the point he was ready to ask for a disabled-list stint.

    But around that time, according to Davis, he was on the verge of getting demoted to Triple-A Las Vegas — that transaction occurred on June 10 — and didn’t want team officials to think he was using the oblique as an excuse or inventing an injury.

    “I thought about saying, ‘Hey, I would like to take a couple of weeks off, because I’m not feeling great,’ ” Davis said. “But then the timing was bad and it was when I was getting sent down. It would have been a great time, but it looks bad and I just can’t say that.”

    Davis was reluctant in admitting to The Post his oblique was an issue for most of last season, beyond the “pop” in Washington, because he doesn’t want to be viewed as an Alibi Ike. Last year he batted only .205 with nine homers and 33 RBIs in 103 games for the Mets.

    “It makes me look like a baby,” Davis said. “It looks like I’m whining about how I [stunk]. I was terrible, now it’s over.”

    The Post first learned the extent of Davis’ oblique issues through an industry source who has contact with the player.

    Neither general manager Sandy Alderson nor manager Terry Collins seemed aware of the situation until asked about it Sunday by The Post.

    “I would have to go back and check with [trainer] Ray [Ramirez] and refresh my memory,” Alderson said.

    Collins was more direct.

    “[Davis] didn’t say anything to me or he wouldn’t have played,” Collins said.

    Davis was hitting .161 with five homers and 16 RBIs when he was demoted to Las Vegas. He said the oblique soreness began weeks earlier when he started taking extra batting practice in an attempt to break his early-season slump.

    “I probably should have said something earlier, but what are you going to do?” Davis said. “I wanted to play better, I didn’t want to come out. If I was hitting .380, I probably would have been like, ‘Maybe I should let this cool down so I don’t miss [extensive] time,’ but when you’re hitting .200, you can’t take weeks off.”

    Davis spent 3 ¹/₂ weeks at Las Vegas and returned to the Mets on July 5 with the oblique still barking. Over his final two months with the Mets, he batted .267 with a .433 on-base percentage, but hit only four homers.

    “It wasn’t to the point I couldn’t swing,” Davis said. “It would hurt the first couple of swings pretty bad in practice, but if I just got it loose it was better. But, yeah, it was just bad timing.”

    Davis is competing with Lucas Duda for the first-base job this spring and said the oblique has healed. The Mets had Davis on the trade block for most of the winter, but were unhappy with the offers they received and ultimately kept him.

    Perhaps a completely healthy Davis still has the potential to revert to the form he showed in the second half of 2012, when he rebounded from a horrible start to finish with 32 homers.

    Last season, the Mets waited for Davis’ breakout, but it never arrived. But now they might have new information to consider.

    “I had an oblique injury for the whole season, basically,” Davis said.
    http://nypost.com/2014/02/23/davis-k...013-struggles/

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    In before its called an excuse .

    Nah in all honesty, I wouldn't put a ton of weight on that being the reason for his 1st half struggles. He had them in 2012 as well and it's just something Ike has to do a better job of going forward (getting out of the gate early and often).

    Either way, it's make it or break it this year for Ike.
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    In 2012, he was coming back from a long ankle injury and his athleticism was compromised. I think that this oblique is a legitimate excuse for some of his struggles. He hit .160/.218/.185(15 wRC+) in May. That's mind-blowingly bad.

    Maybe it took the Vegas heat to get the oblique looser, but then it gave up in late August.

    We'll know for sure if that was the reason though when the season starts. If he sucks again, it's because he sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna View Post
    In 2012, he was coming back from a long ankle injury and his athleticism was compromised. I think that this oblique is a legitimate excuse for some of his struggles. He hit .160/.218/.185(15 wRC+) in May. That's mind-blowingly bad.

    Maybe it took the Vegas heat to get the oblique looser, but then it gave up in late August.

    We'll know for sure if that was the reason though when the season starts. If he sucks again, it's because he sucks.
    Could be. Some guys are just not cold weather hitters/early season hitters as well. Look at Mark Teixeria for example.

    Either way, like you said we'll know by May if Ike still belongs on the ML roster or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Could be. Some guys are just not cold weather hitters/early season hitters as well. Look at Mark Teixeria for example.

    Either way, like you said we'll know by May if Ike still belongs on the ML roster or not.
    I don't mind if he's a slow starter, but he has to start better than he has for sure.

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    Ike Davis concealed oblique injury in 2013

    it's an excuse. Ike has been one of the biggest cry babies in baseball the last few seasons.. I hope Ike rebounds this year. I actually like him, and believe in him, but this is just too convenient of a time to claim an injury.
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    I'm an Ike fan. I want him to succeed. If this is true, it would explain a lot, but not everything.

    That being said, it's a convenient excuse. I realize his season was cut short by an oblique injury, but Ike is a professional basebal player who should know enough to tell his team and trainers when he is in pain.

    If he is telling the troof, he needs to learn to trust his team enough to trust him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rpagz3 View Post
    it's an excuse. Ike has been one of the biggest cry babies in baseball the last few seasons.. I hope Ike rebounds this year. I actually like him, and believe in him, but this is just too convenient of a time to claim an injury.
    Has he? Has he really? He argues with umpires about called strike, but has never blamed them for his struggles.

    He has been right many times he argues called strikes, but they get called because umpires don't like to be questioned.

    That doesn' make him a cry baby. He never whined to the media about bad calls. He only made the mistake of showing up umpires who are trying to teach him to earn it.

    He was actually better at this after coming back from Vegas where Wally got a hold of him, which is why he got more walks. While I don't think Wally is the right manager for this team, I do acknowledge his contribution to making our minor leaguers into major leaguers.


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    I like seeing players play with emotion. So arguing balls and strikes doesn't bother me. Definitely doesn't make a player a cry-baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    I'm an Ike fan. I want him to succeed. If this is true, it would explain a lot, but not everything.

    That being said, it's a convenient excuse. I realize his season was cut short by an oblique injury, but Ike is a professional basebal player who should know enough to tell his team and trainers when he is in pain.

    If he is telling the troof, he needs to learn to trust his team enough to trust him.
    I'm not an Ike fan, but I want him to succeed bc he's a Met. He earns no empathy for his injury from me, as you said, he should have told the team he was in pain (did anyone see him wince on a swing?). I will however, give him props if he revamped his swing as TC stated and he becomes more consistent.

    Per stuna, arguming with umps doesnt bother me, but if done too much it starts to look like the player is pointing fingers for his own failures.
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    Oh quelle surprise!

    The mystery undisclosed injury, 'I didn't suck I was hurt'...

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    Ike Davis concealed oblique injury in 2013

    Am an Ike believer and this may have been true and a a reason why he struggled, but it's an excuse. This year there are no more excuses, put up or be gone time for Ike.

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    The excuses are never-ending in baseball, I have never known a sport like it. The variety and consistency are incredible. This is obviously partly a function of guaranteed deals, but not Ike's case. Many said it was put or shut up for Ike last year, he failed and now he's back again.

    Ike Davis will say anything to cling on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Oh quelle surprise!

    The mystery undisclosed injury, 'I didn't suck I was hurt'...
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    "I sucked because I sucked." -- Ike Davis #mets


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    Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN
    Ike Davis disputes accuracy of report -- says oblique was tight for few months but never was making excuse. "Everyone has injuries."

    He is not making excuses.


    “Ninety percent I’ll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I’ll probably waste.”
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