Is John Tortorella the Bobby Valentine of the NHL?
A friend brought this up to me tonight as he's a die hard Canucks fan and the comments about wanting Sweden to win had him fuming. At first I just thought he was blowing smoke but the more I thought about it they did seem more and more similar. Coasting off 1 year of success, huge ego's and seem to be the cancer that rips apart a dressing room. Just wondering what the consensus is among the folks here on PSD?
I think he's a beauty but you can't coach old school anymore. You can't hurt somebody's feelings this day and age. But the guys a beaut. You can't call guys out anymore either even if you've tried everything to get them going. It's all on the coach.. not the players unfortunately. Just because he only won 1 Cup doesn't mean he's only had one successful season. Smarten up.
I think he is more like a Billy Martin type. Torts has some real positives and real negatives. Neither should be ignored but when I read some of the same types of statements in VAN that I used to hear in NY I'm happy I'm glad he moved on.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Vancouver has a great team on paper, add in the injuries, but to call Torts a smart coach and not Roy, that's some ********.
I didn't say he was a smart coach. I say what I mean. He's a smart man. The OP seemed to be attacking him on a personal level and I don't see anything wrong with torts the man. I said he seems to be a decent coach. The problem in Vancouver is not coaching.
This isn't about Vancouver, I think if you include his time in New York then I think you can find the similarities, especially the way they dealt with the media. I do think Torts needed to stay in Tampa.. The big markets just eat him alive. That being said I don't think he's that smart of a guy either.. Don't exactly see any proof of that when the teams he coaches are already built to win, and they do fine in the regular season (usually)like they are supposed too but then flop in the 1st round. I think people look at the wins too much and just assume he's a good coach lol (Ron Wilson even has 500)