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    Lance Berkman is retiring from the MLB

    Great guy. Great career. Certainly HOF first ballot.
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    I wouldn't go as far to call him a first ballot TBH.

    He MAY make it but, he's not sure fire.

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    I don't think he is a hall of famer at all let alone first ballot.

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    agree with the first two ,great guy and career
    ...but not on the last one,he's more of a bubble/boarderline case and not a certain first ballot guy

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    It's not a slight on him either cause he was a very very very good player.

    However you have to draw the line somewhere to be honest and he really fits the mold of that bubble fringe guy who may make it one day.

    He did enough to give himself a shot and I think that alone should be a testament to how well he played but, what the HoF should set a standard for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNA17 View Post
    I don't think he is a hall of famer at all let alone first ballot.
    Same.

    Hell of a career and one of the good guys.

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    What I dont understand is if you say Berkman is a first ballot HOF but Craig Biggio didnt make it in two years and he was a great player with 3,000 hits. I could see him a player who gets more then 50% of the vote every year but wont make the HOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canefandynasty View Post
    Great guy. Great career. Certainly HOF first ballot.
    I love Berkman, awesome dude, certainly a great career.

    But he's no hall of famer, and he shouldn't be either.

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    I always liked Berkman, he was always a good player but he's far from being a Hall of Famer.
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    A career .406 OBP is outstanding. If Barry Larkin can make it into the hall of fame, I wouldn't be surprised if Berkman makes it in too

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    Lance Berkman is retiring from the MLB

    Very good career, fun to watch hit but he is a borderline HOF on a good day. Maybe being a switch hitter helps him? I don't think id vote for him.

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    I think people are underrating Berkman. Between 1980-2013 Berkman ranks 14th in wRC+ at 144, just one point behind Jim Thome. Obviously a guy like Thome has him beat on games played, but that gives you some idea of just how good Berkman was during his career.

    The only knock on Berkman is time played. Offensively he's right up there with Edgar Martinez (147 wRC+). A fantastic player and a guy I'd support for the HoF on peak performance, even if the counting stats or games played aren't there.


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    he certianly has a hall of fame nickname. great career from the big puma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twitchy View Post
    I think people are underrating Berkman. Between 1980-2013 Berkman ranks 14th in wRC+ at 144, just one point behind Jim Thome. Obviously a guy like Thome has him beat on games played, but that gives you some idea of just how good Berkman was during his career.

    The only knock on Berkman is time played. Offensively he's right up there with Edgar Martinez (147 wRC+). A fantastic player and a guy I'd support for the HoF on peak performance, even if the counting stats or games played aren't there.
    Which is exactly why he is just short though.

    He produced enough, and even played some outfield defense. But he just didn't stay healthy long enough with his production.

    Another 2500 PA at his career averages, and he'd have a much stronger case....but with another 2500 PA (before or after peak) would also likely lower his career averages.

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    I love Berkman, Cards don't have the 2011 World Series ring without him....no way. His professionalism in his at bats was second to none. Great mentor and awesome guy, and I wish him the best.


    But let's ignore for a moment his negative career defensive values (which they obviously exist, negative production with negative positional adjustment).

    In just Runs Created, Berkman is 90th all time with 1424 below Bernie Williams who played a poor centerfield for many years.

    He is above some hall of famers, but most of them were good at something other than offense (Brock, Santo, Brooks Robinson, etc).

    It would be a stretch to say he is a hall of famer. His personality and overall career production will get him some votes, but I would leave him out personally....and I think very highly of him.

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