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    Durant v Lebron: Legacy

    Durant is having an incredible season this year, even defensively. He is four years behind LeBron age/career-wise, and doesn't quite have the same all-around and individual accolades, although the statistics are still there.

    What would it take for him to eventually be in the legacy conversation where James will reside, and do you think it's possible?
    Jerry West or Larry Bird? The discussion is over.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../birdje01.html

    Part of the GOAT team: Chamberlain, Bird, Duncan, Durrant, Ewing, Gervin.
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    KD/BRON were this good preNBA

    to answer your question.....KD needs to stay healthy for his career and keep playing at this mvp level like he has since his TEXAS days, but especially since like the 10-11' season

    it's clear BRON is the JORDAN of his era, while KD is the DREAM/MALONE/BARKLEY/IVERSON of his so far

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    These KD threads are getting a bit too much. IJS

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3RDASYSTEM View Post
    KD/BRON were this good preNBA

    to answer your question.....KD needs to stay healthy for his career and keep playing at this mvp level like he has since his TEXAS days, but especially since like the 10-11' season

    it's clear BRON is the JORDAN of his era, while KD is the DREAM/MALONE/BARKLEY/IVERSON of his so far
    Lebron is the best player hands down right now, but he has been in the league for 11 years and has 2 rings. That does not equal Jordan of his era. If anything that would be Kobe for having 5, but even that is a stretch. If he wins 4 more in the next 5 years then say that. As for KD matching Lebron's legacy. It all depends on how many championships Lebron ends with. I don't value MVP titles. They aren't given to the best player in the league. Kobe and Shaq only have one each and Jordan who was the best player practically every yr. only has 4. If KD is within a title of Lebron and we can say that he was the best player in the world for any 5 yr. stretch and being 4 yrs younger will have a shot. Then they are equal.

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    Define defensively.. Because stats show the thunder play better defense (slightly) when he's off the court, and thabo guards the best player on the opposing team..

    All that being said, he has improved his defense this year and his overall game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im_in_Mia_bish View Post
    Define defensively.. Because stats show the thunder play better defense (slightly) when he's off the court, and thabo guards the best player on the opposing team..

    All that being said, he has improved his defense this year and his overall game.
    This is all I was referencing.
    Jerry West or Larry Bird? The discussion is over.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../birdje01.html

    Part of the GOAT team: Chamberlain, Bird, Duncan, Durrant, Ewing, Gervin.
    http://bkref.com/tiny/JIHaF

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    we don't even know where James will end up so this is a tad premature.
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    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im_in_Mia_bish View Post
    Define defensively.. Because stats show the thunder play better defense (slightly) when he's off the court, and thabo guards the best player on the opposing team..

    All that being said, he has improved his defense this year and his overall game.
    Wouldn't put much stock into a singular statistic without looking at it more holistically. The Knicks are "better" defensively when Chandler sits, same for the Spurs and Duncan, Bulls and Noah, etc the 82games.com numbers aren't adjusted so the strengths/weaknesses of the players on the floor with him at the time isn't taken into consideration. The adjusted numbers for this year (updated as of the 18th of Jan) paints Durant as a solid defensive player, it does however paint Boogie as one as well.

    By most other metrics however Durant has been pretty solid defensively this season.

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    tONIGHT!!!! ITS SHOWDOWN TIME!!!!!!!! i hope wade goes for 50+ and whoops durants ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    we don't even know where James will end up so this is a tad premature.
    Guy has been in the league 10 years; shouldn't we have at least enough information to make reasonable projections at this point?
    Jerry West or Larry Bird? The discussion is over.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../birdje01.html

    Part of the GOAT team: Chamberlain, Bird, Duncan, Durrant, Ewing, Gervin.
    http://bkref.com/tiny/JIHaF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentzias View Post
    Guy has been in the league 10 years; shouldn't we have at least enough information to make reasonable projections at this point?
    i say this because if it was just about individual numbers then James ends up number 1, it's a slam dunk for me.
    but a lot of people will be swayed by how many championships he gets. if he gets no more they will likely rank him differently than if he ends up with 10. just saying.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Win a championship this year and he supplants Lebron. That simple and no debate to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentzias View Post
    Durant is having an incredible season this year, even defensively. He is four years behind LeBron age/career-wise, and doesn't quite have the same all-around and individual accolades, although the statistics are still there.

    What would it take for him to eventually be in the legacy conversation where James will reside, and do you think it's possible?
    Lebron has been the better player up until this season. This year Durant has been the best player in the league and better than Lebron so far. If Durant can play at that level and win a few titles, he has a good chance at surpassing Lebron. For the next few seasons, Durant and LBJ will be competing for titles. If Durant can get a few while preventing Lebron from winning some more, he can be greater than Lebron. Its gonna depend on who can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomLoxas View Post
    Win a championship this year and he supplants Lebron. That simple and no debate to it.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomLoxas View Post
    Win a championship this year and he supplants Lebron. That simple and no debate to it.
    It's not that simple, and is certainly debatable.

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