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  • Aaron Rodgers 2011

    5 26.32%
  • Peyton Manning 2004

    2 10.53%
  • Tom Brady 2007

    2 10.53%
  • Dan Marino 1984

    3 15.79%
  • Peyton Manning 2013

    7 36.84%
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    The Greatest Season Ever for a Quarterback

    Since the season's end, and even before, there have consistently been claims that Peyton Manning's 2013 regular season was the greatest that any quarterback has ever had. I was thinking about the topic, and I don't think its so clear. In fact, I believe there have been four better seasons, three of them in the past 10 years.

    Let me make it clear that this is not a thread to bash Manning. He should become the second player to ever win a unanimous MVP this year and he absolutely deserves it. But it was not the greatest season ever for a QB.

    The four seasons that I argue are better include:

    Aaron Rodgers 2011
    Tom Brady 2007
    Peyton Manning 2004
    Dan Marino 1984


    Peyton Manning 2013:
    450/659 passes completed (68.3%)
    5,477 yards (8.3 YPA)
    55 TDs (8.3 TD%)
    10 INTs (1.5 INT%)
    Rating: 115.1
    82.93 QBR

    His 55 TDs and 5477 yards are NFL records. He led the Denver Broncos offense to a record 606 points, 37.9 per game.

    Tom Brady 2007:
    398/578 passes completed (68.9%)
    4,806 yards (8.3 YPA)
    50 TDs (8.7 TD%)
    8 INTs (1.4 INT%)
    Rating: 117.2
    87.08 QBR

    Tom Brady set the record for TDs in a season, and led the Pats offense to 589 points, both records until 2013. The Pats averaged 36.8 points per game en route to a 16-0 regular season.

    The two seasons above are the most interesting to compare in my opinion. I acknowledge that assumptions cannot be made about what would have or could have happened, but when the sample size is large enough, I tend to put more stock into ratio and percentage stats than counting stats.

    Brady was slightly more accurate in terms of completion percentage, and they had identical YPA numbers. Surprisingly, Brady's TD% was higher, and his INT% very slightly lower. If Brady threw the same amount of passes in 2007 as Manning did in 2013, his numbers were projected to be:
    5,477 yards (tie)
    57 TDs (advantage Brady)
    9 INTs (advantage Brady)

    The next point of comparison I will use is level of competition. Specifically, the defenses that they each faced. Obviously, neither QB had control over their schedule, and should be given credit for dominating the teams they faced.

    The average defensive rank of the teams Brady faced in 07 was 14th (209 passing yards allowed on average), slightly better than average. He faced 6 top 10 defenses, and 4 bottom 10 defenses. Manning faced an average ranked defense of 22nd, (246.1 YPG average), only 2 top 10 defenses, and 9 bottom 10 defenses.

    Another point of comparison is offensive supporting cast. This one is hard to call. The 2007 Patriots had Randy Moss at his best, and he was at times completely unstoppable, capable of beating double and even triple coverage routinely. Both QBs had the benefit of Welker, granted he was younger and healthier (albeit unproven), going into 2007. In addition to Welker, the Broncos had Demaryius Thomas, who is a fantastic receiver, but he is not on the level of Randy Moss. Denver had a huge advantage at TE as a weapon, with Julius Thomas and Jacob Tamme over Ben Watson and Kyle Brady. The Pats other outside receiver was Donte Stallworth, who was effective, but not as talented as Eric Decker. Additionally, Denver had a better running game, led by Moreno and later Ball, which helped to keep defenses honest. Moreno was also a very effective weapon in the passing game. In conclusion, the Broncos had more great weapons, but the Patriots had possibly the most dangerous receiver in NFL history.

    Overall, both were clearly phenomenal seasons, and this really is splitting hairs. But I believe the numbers show that Brady was more efficient and effective in 2007 than Manning was in 2013.


    Aaron Rodgers 2011:
    This was when everybody realized that Rodgers has a chance to be an all time great. In 15 starts, he led GB to a 14-1 record and GB averaged 35 points per game.

    343/502 passes completed (68.3%)
    4643 yards (9.0 YPA)
    45 TDs (9.0 TD%)
    6 INTs (1.2 INT%)
    122.5 Rating
    86.23 QBR

    In 659 passes, Rodgers was projected to throw over 59 TDs, 8 INTs, and 5931 yards. Rodgers had a great supporting cast in terms of his receivers with Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jermichael Finley and Jordy Nelson, but has a very weak running game. Like Brady's 07 Pats, this team did not have the offensive balance of the 2013 Broncos. Teams knew the pass was coming, and couldnt stop it.

    2004 Peyton Manning

    Manning's true best season. The Colts scored 32.6 PPG in a very well balanced offense. In 2004, the league was shifting toward being a total passing league, but this season by Manning and his receivers really sped up that motion.

    336/497 passes completed (67.6%)
    4557 (9.2 YPA)
    49 TDs (9.9 TD%)
    10 Ints (2.0 TD%)
    121.1 Passer rating
    (QBR not yet recorded)

    Its remarkable to me when I hear people say that 2013 was the greatest season ever. Do people truly forget so quickly, that Manning himself has outdone 2013? He had a supporting cast equally as strong as his current Denver one, if not stronger, with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James making plays while Tarik Glen protected his blindside. But he was brutally efficient in 2004. If he had thrown 659 passes, his stats would have been projected to be:
    6,063 yards
    65 TDs
    14 INTs

    That is a truly dominant season.


    1984 Dan Marino
    The 84 Dolphins averaged over 32 points per game, by far the best in the league.

    362/564 (64.2%)
    5084 yards (9.0 YPA)
    48 TDs (8.5 TD%)
    17 INTs (3.0 INT %)
    108.9 Passer Rating.

    Spread over 659 Passes, his statistics would have been projected to be:
    5,931 yards
    56 TDs
    20 INTs

    What makes this season particularly impressive was the fact that it happened in 1984. When Marino set the TD record at 48, the previous record was 36. It took 20 years for that record to fall, and even longer for his yards record to fall, and it was still a defensive league in 1984. The comparisons to his peers in 1984, and that entire time period, is what makes it even more impressive.


    I believe that the five seasons just listed are the five greatest ever by a QB. Drew Brees' 2011 season deserves an honorable mention, and likely ranks at number 6 in my opinion.

    Upon closer review, I see no good argument for Mannings 2013 being the greatest season ever by a QB. The only area that it is the greatest in is its statistical volume. But stats that count shouldnt tell the whole story. For those who believe that Mannings 2013 was the greatest season ever by a QB, I assume you also believe that Brett Favre is the greatest QB of all time? Any other logic would be inconsistent.

    My rankings:
    5. Peyton Manning 2013
    4. Dan Marino 1984
    3. Tom Brady 2007
    2. Peyton Manning 2004
    1. Aaron Rodgers 2011.

    I believe that the top four are all more or less interchangeable.

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    Sorry about the length of that. Didn't want to make a statement and ask for opinions without giving a good amount of information.

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    Tom Brady 2007 and you covered the why.

    As far as todays football goes that is.

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    Marino; modern equivalent 16-0 ... under the old rules = awesome.

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    I never bought into this season by Manning being the best ever. Just talking recent history, I put Rodgers' and Brady's seasons ahead of 2013 Manning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    I never bought into this season by Manning being the best ever. Just talking recent history, I put Rodgers' and Brady's seasons ahead of 2013 Manning.
    Agreed. It was a great season but I just dont see a good argument to it being the best, or even top 4. Calling it the greatest season ever just seems like the popular thing to say right now though.

    Even Bradys 2011 is comparably efficient

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    The Greatest Season Ever for a Quarterback

    Amigo, it's clear Russell Wilson had the best season ever....ok?~~~
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    I hate to break it to ya like this amigo but nobody here is really too concerned with what you want like or need....ok? If a thread isn't for you do like everyone else, walk on by...ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithRichards View Post
    Since the season's end, and even before, there have consistently been claims that Peyton Manning's 2013 regular season was the greatest that any quarterback has ever had. I was thinking about the topic, and I don't think its so clear. In fact, I believe there have been four better seasons, three of them in the past 10 years.

    Let me make it clear that this is not a thread to bash Manning. He should become the second player to ever win a unanimous MVP this year and he absolutely deserves it. But it was not the greatest season ever for a QB.

    The four seasons that I argue are better include:

    Aaron Rodgers 2011
    Tom Brady 2007
    Peyton Manning 2004
    Dan Marino 1984


    Peyton Manning 2013:
    450/659 passes completed (68.3%)
    5,477 yards (8.3 YPA)
    55 TDs (8.3 TD%)
    10 INTs (1.5 INT%)
    Rating: 115.1
    82.93 QBR

    His 55 TDs and 5477 yards are NFL records. He led the Denver Broncos offense to a record 606 points, 37.9 per game.

    Tom Brady 2007:
    398/578 passes completed (68.9%)
    4,806 yards (8.3 YPA)
    50 TDs (8.7 TD%)
    8 INTs (1.4 INT%)
    Rating: 117.2
    87.08 QBR

    Tom Brady set the record for TDs in a season, and led the Pats offense to 589 points, both records until 2013. The Pats averaged 36.8 points per game en route to a 16-0 regular season.

    The two seasons above are the most interesting to compare in my opinion. I acknowledge that assumptions cannot be made about what would have or could have happened, but when the sample size is large enough, I tend to put more stock into ratio and percentage stats than counting stats.

    Brady was slightly more accurate in terms of completion percentage, and they had identical YPA numbers. Surprisingly, Brady's TD% was higher, and his INT% very slightly lower. If Brady threw the same amount of passes in 2007 as Manning did in 2013, his numbers were projected to be:
    5,477 yards (tie)
    57 TDs (advantage Brady)
    9 INTs (advantage Brady)

    The next point of comparison I will use is level of competition. Specifically, the defenses that they each faced. Obviously, neither QB had control over their schedule, and should be given credit for dominating the teams they faced.

    The average defensive rank of the teams Brady faced in 07 was 14th (209 passing yards allowed on average), slightly better than average. He faced 6 top 10 defenses, and 4 bottom 10 defenses. Manning faced an average ranked defense of 22nd, (246.1 YPG average), only 2 top 10 defenses, and 9 bottom 10 defenses.

    Another point of comparison is offensive supporting cast. This one is hard to call. The 2007 Patriots had Randy Moss at his best, and he was at times completely unstoppable, capable of beating double and even triple coverage routinely. Both QBs had the benefit of Welker, granted he was younger and healthier (albeit unproven), going into 2007. In addition to Welker, the Broncos had Demaryius Thomas, who is a fantastic receiver, but he is not on the level of Randy Moss. Denver had a huge advantage at TE as a weapon, with Julius Thomas and Jacob Tamme over Ben Watson and Kyle Brady. The Pats other outside receiver was Donte Stallworth, who was effective, but not as talented as Eric Decker. Additionally, Denver had a better running game, led by Moreno and later Ball, which helped to keep defenses honest. Moreno was also a very effective weapon in the passing game. In conclusion, the Broncos had more great weapons, but the Patriots had possibly the most dangerous receiver in NFL history.

    Overall, both were clearly phenomenal seasons, and this really is splitting hairs. But I believe the numbers show that Brady was more efficient and effective in 2007 than Manning was in 2013.


    Aaron Rodgers 2011:
    This was when everybody realized that Rodgers has a chance to be an all time great. In 15 starts, he led GB to a 14-1 record and GB averaged 35 points per game.

    343/502 passes completed (68.3%)
    4643 yards (9.0 YPA)
    45 TDs (9.0 TD%)
    6 INTs (1.2 INT%)
    122.5 Rating
    86.23 QBR

    In 659 passes, Rodgers was projected to throw over 59 TDs, 8 INTs, and 5931 yards. Rodgers had a great supporting cast in terms of his receivers with Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jermichael Finley and Jordy Nelson, but has a very weak running game. Like Brady's 07 Pats, this team did not have the offensive balance of the 2013 Broncos. Teams knew the pass was coming, and couldnt stop it.

    2004 Peyton Manning

    Manning's true best season. The Colts scored 32.6 PPG in a very well balanced offense. In 2004, the league was shifting toward being a total passing league, but this season by Manning and his receivers really sped up that motion.

    336/497 passes completed (67.6%)
    4557 (9.2 YPA)
    49 TDs (9.9 TD%)
    10 Ints (2.0 TD%)
    121.1 Passer rating
    (QBR not yet recorded)

    Its remarkable to me when I hear people say that 2013 was the greatest season ever. Do people truly forget so quickly, that Manning himself has outdone 2013? He had a supporting cast equally as strong as his current Denver one, if not stronger, with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James making plays while Tarik Glen protected his blindside. But he was brutally efficient in 2004. If he had thrown 659 passes, his stats would have been projected to be:
    6,063 yards
    65 TDs
    14 INTs

    That is a truly dominant season.


    1984 Dan Marino
    The 84 Dolphins averaged over 32 points per game, by far the best in the league.

    362/564 (64.2%)
    5084 yards (9.0 YPA)
    48 TDs (8.5 TD%)
    17 INTs (3.0 INT %)
    108.9 Passer Rating.

    Spread over 659 Passes, his statistics would have been projected to be:
    5,931 yards
    56 TDs
    20 INTs

    What makes this season particularly impressive was the fact that it happened in 1984. When Marino set the TD record at 48, the previous record was 36. It took 20 years for that record to fall, and even longer for his yards record to fall, and it was still a defensive league in 1984. The comparisons to his peers in 1984, and that entire time period, is what makes it even more impressive.


    I believe that the five seasons just listed are the five greatest ever by a QB. Drew Brees' 2011 season deserves an honorable mention, and likely ranks at number 6 in my opinion.

    Upon closer review, I see no good argument for Mannings 2013 being the greatest season ever by a QB. The only area that it is the greatest in is its statistical volume. But stats that count shouldnt tell the whole story. For those who believe that Mannings 2013 was the greatest season ever by a QB, I assume you also believe that Brett Favre is the greatest QB of all time? Any other logic would be inconsistent.

    My rankings:
    5. Peyton Manning 2013
    4. Dan Marino 1984
    3. Tom Brady 2007
    2. Peyton Manning 2004
    1. Aaron Rodgers 2011.

    I believe that the top four are all more or less interchangeable.
    Considering the time frame, Marino's season has to be considered the best.

    Not only that, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure marino never had the weapons the other 3 QBs on this list had when they posted these seasons.

    I think Rodgers' weapons weren't as good as the other seasons as well.
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    That quote always cracks me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basch152 View Post
    Considering the time frame, Marino's season has to be considered the best.

    Not only that, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure marino never had the weapons the other 3 QBs on this list had when they posted these seasons.

    I think Rodgers' weapons weren't as good as the other seasons as well.
    Agreed, it was a different era though, teams didn't spread it out as much and the TE was far from a huge offensive weapon back then. Clayton and Duper were no slouches though. Marino was awesome... I think he'd put up Rodgers, Brees and Manning type numbers if he was in his prime today.

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    I expect you selected as good a top 5 as there is. There have been a lot of solid seasons by QBs. I pulled a short list that includes your 5. Three simple parameters on the filter, 108 or greater passer rating, 14 or more games and 100 or more passes completed.

    One thing that stood out, the only guys that did it with single digit INTs were Rodgers and Brady and both did it twice!

    Anyway, here are the stats from all those seasons.

    One other thing, as we look at this season and evaluate it's greatness, there is still a championship game to play. If he puts an exclamation point on the season with a SB victory, especially in the face of the fact that the other 4 failed in that particular challenge, it will add to the case that it is the best.

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    Rk             Player Year Age Draft  Tm   Lg    G GS  Cmp Att   Cmp%  Yds TD Int  Rate Sk   Y/A SkYds  AY/A ANY/A   Y/G  W L T
    1       Aaron Rodgers 2011  28  1-24 GNB  NFL   15 15  343 502 68.33% 4643 45   6 122.5 36  9.25   219 10.50  9.39 309.5 14 1 0
    2      Peyton Manning 2004  28   1-1 IND  NFL   16 16  336 497 67.61% 4557 49  10 121.1 13  9.17   101 10.24  9.78 284.8 12 4 0
    3           Tom Brady 2007  30 6-199 NWE  NFL   16 16  398 578 68.86% 4806 50   8 117.2 21  8.31   128  9.42  8.88 300.4 16 0 0
    4      Peyton Manning 2013  37   1-1 DEN  NFL   16 16  450 659 68.29% 5477 55  10 115.1 18  8.31   120  9.30  8.87 342.3 13 3 0
    5        Steve Young* 1994  33   1-1 SFO  NFL   16 16  324 461 70.28% 3969 35  10 112.8 31  8.61   163  9.15  8.24 248.1 13 3 0
    6           Tom Brady 2010  33 6-199 NWE  NFL   16 16  324 492 65.85% 3900 36   4 111.0 25  7.93   175  9.02  8.25 243.8 14 2 0
    7    Daunte Culpepper 2004  27  1-11 MIN  NFL   16 16  379 548 69.16% 4717 39  11 110.9 46  8.61   238  9.13  8.02 294.8  8 8 0
    8          Drew Brees 2011  32  2-32 NOR  NFL   16 16  468 657 71.23% 5476 46  14 110.6 24  8.33   158  8.78  8.23 342.3 13 3 0
    9          Drew Brees 2009  30  2-32 NOR  NFL   15 15  363 514 70.62% 4388 34  11 109.6 20  8.54   135  8.90  8.31 292.5 13 2 0
    10       Otto Graham* 1947  26   1-4 CLE AAFC   14  9  163 269 60.59% 2753 25  11 109.2    10.23       10.25       196.6  0 0 0
    11        Kurt Warner 1999  28       STL  NFL   16 16  325 499 65.13% 4353 41  13 109.2 29  8.72   201  9.19  8.31 272.1 12 3 0
    12        Dan Marino* 1984  23  1-27 MIA  NFL   16 16  362 564 64.18% 5084 48  17 108.9 13  9.01   120  9.36  8.94 317.8 14 2 0
    13      Aaron Rodgers 2012  29  1-24 GNB  NFL   16 16  371 552 67.21% 4295 39   8 108.0 51  7.78   293  8.54  7.33 268.4 11 5 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithRichards View Post
    Since the season's end, and even before, there have consistently been claims that Peyton Manning's 2013 regular season was the greatest that any quarterback has ever had. I was thinking about the topic, and I don't think its so clear. In fact, I believe there have been four better seasons, three of them in the past 10 years.

    Let me make it clear that this is not a thread to bash Manning. He should become the second player to ever win a unanimous MVP this year and he absolutely deserves it. But it was not the greatest season ever for a QB.

    The four seasons that I argue are better include:

    Aaron Rodgers 2011
    Tom Brady 2007
    Peyton Manning 2004
    Dan Marino 1984


    Peyton Manning 2013:
    450/659 passes completed (68.3%)
    5,477 yards (8.3 YPA)
    55 TDs (8.3 TD%)
    10 INTs (1.5 INT%)
    Rating: 115.1
    82.93 QBR

    His 55 TDs and 5477 yards are NFL records. He led the Denver Broncos offense to a record 606 points, 37.9 per game.

    Tom Brady 2007:
    398/578 passes completed (68.9%)
    4,806 yards (8.3 YPA)
    50 TDs (8.7 TD%)
    8 INTs (1.4 INT%)
    Rating: 117.2
    87.08 QBR

    Tom Brady set the record for TDs in a season, and led the Pats offense to 589 points, both records until 2013. The Pats averaged 36.8 points per game en route to a 16-0 regular season.

    The two seasons above are the most interesting to compare in my opinion. I acknowledge that assumptions cannot be made about what would have or could have happened, but when the sample size is large enough, I tend to put more stock into ratio and percentage stats than counting stats.

    Brady was slightly more accurate in terms of completion percentage, and they had identical YPA numbers. Surprisingly, Brady's TD% was higher, and his INT% very slightly lower. If Brady threw the same amount of passes in 2007 as Manning did in 2013, his numbers were projected to be:
    5,477 yards (tie)
    57 TDs (advantage Brady)
    9 INTs (advantage Brady)

    The next point of comparison I will use is level of competition. Specifically, the defenses that they each faced. Obviously, neither QB had control over their schedule, and should be given credit for dominating the teams they faced.

    The average defensive rank of the teams Brady faced in 07 was 14th (209 passing yards allowed on average), slightly better than average. He faced 6 top 10 defenses, and 4 bottom 10 defenses. Manning faced an average ranked defense of 22nd, (246.1 YPG average), only 2 top 10 defenses, and 9 bottom 10 defenses.

    Another point of comparison is offensive supporting cast. This one is hard to call. The 2007 Patriots had Randy Moss at his best, and he was at times completely unstoppable, capable of beating double and even triple coverage routinely. Both QBs had the benefit of Welker, granted he was younger and healthier (albeit unproven), going into 2007. In addition to Welker, the Broncos had Demaryius Thomas, who is a fantastic receiver, but he is not on the level of Randy Moss. Denver had a huge advantage at TE as a weapon, with Julius Thomas and Jacob Tamme over Ben Watson and Kyle Brady. The Pats other outside receiver was Donte Stallworth, who was effective, but not as talented as Eric Decker. Additionally, Denver had a better running game, led by Moreno and later Ball, which helped to keep defenses honest. Moreno was also a very effective weapon in the passing game. In conclusion, the Broncos had more great weapons, but the Patriots had possibly the most dangerous receiver in NFL history.

    Overall, both were clearly phenomenal seasons, and this really is splitting hairs. But I believe the numbers show that Brady was more efficient and effective in 2007 than Manning was in 2013.


    Aaron Rodgers 2011:
    This was when everybody realized that Rodgers has a chance to be an all time great. In 15 starts, he led GB to a 14-1 record and GB averaged 35 points per game.

    343/502 passes completed (68.3%)
    4643 yards (9.0 YPA)
    45 TDs (9.0 TD%)
    6 INTs (1.2 INT%)
    122.5 Rating
    86.23 QBR

    In 659 passes, Rodgers was projected to throw over 59 TDs, 8 INTs, and 5931 yards. Rodgers had a great supporting cast in terms of his receivers with Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jermichael Finley and Jordy Nelson, but has a very weak running game. Like Brady's 07 Pats, this team did not have the offensive balance of the 2013 Broncos. Teams knew the pass was coming, and couldnt stop it.

    2004 Peyton Manning

    Manning's true best season. The Colts scored 32.6 PPG in a very well balanced offense. In 2004, the league was shifting toward being a total passing league, but this season by Manning and his receivers really sped up that motion.

    336/497 passes completed (67.6%)
    4557 (9.2 YPA)
    49 TDs (9.9 TD%)
    10 Ints (2.0 TD%)
    121.1 Passer rating
    (QBR not yet recorded)

    Its remarkable to me when I hear people say that 2013 was the greatest season ever. Do people truly forget so quickly, that Manning himself has outdone 2013? He had a supporting cast equally as strong as his current Denver one, if not stronger, with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Edgerrin James making plays while Tarik Glen protected his blindside. But he was brutally efficient in 2004. If he had thrown 659 passes, his stats would have been projected to be:
    6,063 yards
    65 TDs
    14 INTs

    That is a truly dominant season.


    1984 Dan Marino
    The 84 Dolphins averaged over 32 points per game, by far the best in the league.

    362/564 (64.2%)
    5084 yards (9.0 YPA)
    48 TDs (8.5 TD%)
    17 INTs (3.0 INT %)
    108.9 Passer Rating.

    Spread over 659 Passes, his statistics would have been projected to be:
    5,931 yards
    56 TDs
    20 INTs

    What makes this season particularly impressive was the fact that it happened in 1984. When Marino set the TD record at 48, the previous record was 36. It took 20 years for that record to fall, and even longer for his yards record to fall, and it was still a defensive league in 1984. The comparisons to his peers in 1984, and that entire time period, is what makes it even more impressive.


    I believe that the five seasons just listed are the five greatest ever by a QB. Drew Brees' 2011 season deserves an honorable mention, and likely ranks at number 6 in my opinion.

    Upon closer review, I see no good argument for Mannings 2013 being the greatest season ever by a QB. The only area that it is the greatest in is its statistical volume. But stats that count shouldnt tell the whole story. For those who believe that Mannings 2013 was the greatest season ever by a QB, I assume you also believe that Brett Favre is the greatest QB of all time? Any other logic would be inconsistent.

    My rankings:
    5. Peyton Manning 2013
    4. Dan Marino 1984
    3. Tom Brady 2007
    2. Peyton Manning 2004
    1. Aaron Rodgers 2011.

    I believe that the top four are all more or less interchangeable.
    I think MOSS was at his best at MARSHALL/VIKINGS, but he was so good that at 33-34yrs of age he could still dominate as he showed with PATS

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    I did want to make one point though, you are including 4 rather contemporary performances and including a performance from a different era, Marino's season. Is it fair? I don't know. Is it easy to compare across era's? No, it may be impossible.

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    I thought Brady's 2010 season was pretty damn amazing, especially from an efficiency standpoint.

    He led the league in both TD% and INT% that year.


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    65.9% Cmp

    3900 Yards

    36 Touchdowns (Led League)

    7.3 TD% (Led League)

    4 INTs

    0.8 INT% (Led League)

    111.0 QB Rating (Led League)



    I'm not sure if any QB has ever done that before (lead the league in both TD% and INT% in the same season).

    Manning hasn't done it. Montana and Marino never did.



    EDIT: Unitas did in in '58, with a 7.2 TD% and 2.7 INT%. Not sure if anyone else has
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