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    Kaepernick?

    After the lose to the Seahawks. I have that sick and depressed feeling in my stomach. I feel like Kaepernick took steps back this year in his passing game. I understand crabtree was out for most of the year but, great QB's don't rely on just one WR. The last play where he throw the INT. Patton was open. I think he forces the ball to much to Crabtree and Boldin. Patton was getting open all game. It doesn't help on top of that we get a lot of bad calls.

    Do you guys think Kaepernick is our long term solution at QB?
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    Yes, the potential for Kaep is unreal. He's not even in his prime yet. He'll get better. Loss hurts, the int's hurt but I'm still confident we have our franchise QB. Losing this game just means we prob don't have to pay him 20 mil per year. Couple things going differently and we win that game. It is what it is sometimes.

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    I think he is a longterm solution. He just needs to watch more film IMO. If he watched film like say Manning/Brady he would see that he's constantly missing open receivers. Lets put it this way though he needs go into this off season with the mindset that he's fighting for a roster spot.

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    What is it going to take for him to sit down and focus more on being the best at his position? A new QB coach? OC?

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    Kaep need to work more on being a QB - which he sometimes seems to fail at. I agree that his ceiling is high, and he seems to have "it", but for him to be elite/great he needs to learn how to be a NFL "pocket passer" - if he's able to do that.... he has the potential to tie Montana for rings, if not, he's going to be another Vick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL49er View Post
    What is it going to take for him to sit down and focus more on being the best at his position? A new QB coach? OC?
    A couple more seasons sitting on the bench with a veteran QB in front of him is what he needed most. Being able to observe how to do it and replicate that aspect of being a pro would have been ideal. Anyway, that is not the scenario we have so he has to learn that on his own, I believe he can.

    He has the work ethic to improve physically, he needs to extend that drive into the mental aspects of his game. I personally think he should reach out to some of the greats like Montana and Young, have them work out with him, maybe even watch some film... talk shop. I would be all up in their sh** if i were him. Hell, even Garcia would love to talk to him if he asked. All of these guys were able to go through 4-5 reads very quickly, and come back to them as the play developed, talk about a great resource.

    Kap has all the tools in the world but it is pretty much a consensus in here what he needs to work on the most. If he wants to be paid as a great QB he needs to become a great passer. If he doesn't then there is little reason for this team to invest a fortune into this guy.

    Next season could go both ways for this team. We are going to lose some players, and Bowman being hurt (and maybe never the same once he comes back) our defense isn't going to be as potent. Sure we'll be good but we most definitely need a competent offense/passing attack to make the same kind of noise. That is ALL on Kap. I used to think it was a 50/50 problem with Roman/Kap but now I think it is more like 20/80 Roman/Kap.

    That is my take.

    I hate that our season is over.

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    So the other thread listed as colin kaepernick wasnt good enough for this?
    Quote Originally Posted by heimdog8 View Post
    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FL49er:27834142
    What is it going to take for him to sit down and focus more on being the best at his position? A new QB coach? OC?
    This loss might be what it takes for him. I don't believe that Roman play calling is helping him either. I would like a new OC. We need to be a more traditional West coast offense. More slants and screens. Our WR are very good after the catch. Give them the opportunity to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGeer091 View Post
    This loss might be what it takes for him. I don't believe that Roman play calling is helping him either. I would like a new OC. We need to be a more traditional West coast offense. More slants and screens. Our WR are very good after the catch. Give them the opportunity to succeed.
    I am cool with a WCO. That system has a track record of great success... and it is our heritage.

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    If cam can take the next step Kaep will too.. be patient I would rather give 100+mill to him then flacco


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    He is essentially a second year QB. In his first year as starter he took his team to the Super Bowl. In his second year, he took his team back to the NFC Championship and was 18 yards away from winning. The fact still remains that he is 26 years old, the most physically talented QB in all of football, and not afraid of the big moment.

    I truly believe the sky is the limit for Kap. He may be unconventional, but his style of play is winning us games.

    Do you know how hard it is to find a franchise QB in this league right now ? Look around and look at the hell teams like the Browns, Vikings, and Jags are going through. Then take a trip back in time and remember the Ken Dorsey, Tim Rattay, J.T. O'sullivan, and early Alex Smith days. Do you really want to revert to the days where you didn't know if your QB had the arm strength to throw a 20 yard out ?

    Just take a step back, mourn in your own way, and understand that sometimes the only way to get better is to endure hardships ...

    I'm proud to be a 49er fan. I'm excited knowing that this team will be competitive for the next 5-7 years with their core defensive players locked up, draft picks galore, and one of the best head coaches in all of Football.

    We have a state of the art stadium coming to us next season and will be hosting a historic Super Bowl in the years to follow. Like I said, the future is bright for this team and as much as I would love to win the Big one every year, the fact is that we have a lot to be thankful for and Kaepernick is one of those things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGeer091 View Post
    This loss might be what it takes for him. I don't believe that Roman play calling is helping him either. I would like a new OC. We need to be a more traditional West coast offense. More slants and screens. Our WR are very good after the catch. Give them the opportunity to succeed.

    I've never been one to bash Roman, when I hear things from Gore saying he's the best OC he's ever had I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. Though in Romans defense he's new to Kaep as well, you don't know Kaep's potential if you don't test him in certain packages.

    Though I do agree, it's like we never run a slant route. We never use our slot receivers. Did Manningham even have a catch the last 4 games? I think it's good to mix it up with the slant here and there. Also it doesn't seem like we throw any curl routes either. Does Roman have no faith in Kaeps ability to hit particular spots?

    The only other thing I'm going to bash Roman on was how predictable we were on first down. I think we ran it every single first down of the game.

    On a side note. I hate to say it but it may be time to move on from Gore. He's been our rock all year and he's a smart runner, but watching these other RB's in the league blast off the line is something we have been missing for a while yet. Curious to see what Lattimore can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macc View Post
    I've never been one to bash Roman, when I hear things from Gore saying he's the best OC he's ever had I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. Though in Romans defense he's new to Kaep as well, you don't know Kaep's potential if you don't test him in certain packages.

    Though I do agree, it's like we never run a slant route. We never use our slot receivers. Did Manningham even have a catch the last 4 games? I think it's good to mix it up with the slant here and there. Also it doesn't seem like we throw any curl routes either. Does Roman have no faith in Kaeps ability to hit particular spots?

    The only other thing I'm going to bash Roman on was how predictable we were on first down. I think we ran it every single first down of the game.

    On a side note. I hate to say it but it may be time to move on from Gore. He's been our rock all year and he's a smart runner, but watching these other RB's in the league blast off the line is something we have been missing for a while yet. Curious to see what Lattimore can do.
    If I'm not mistaking, wasn't Manningham hurt?
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    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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    I know that it isn't much consolation right now, but he really impressed me with his interview after the game. He took full responsibility for a loss that can be attributed to him in a large degree with the turnovers.

    The only way for him to get better is to first recognize that he needs to get better. Without recognizing the need, he has no potential for growth. He made a couple of super throws so I know why he made the silly looking throws. The TD to Boldin was a perfect example of why he thought the INT throws would work.

    You guys have an elite team with a great QB (I'm not ready to call him elite yet) that can lead a team. I would be surprised if you all don't get 2-3 chances at a Superbowl in the next 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    I know that it isn't much consolation right now, but he really impressed me with his interview after the game. He took full responsibility for a loss that can be attributed to him in a large degree with the turnovers.

    The only way for him to get better is to first recognize that he needs to get better. Without recognizing the need, he has no potential for growth. He made a couple of super throws so I know why he made the silly looking throws. The TD to Boldin was a perfect example of why he thought the INT throws would work.

    You guys have an elite team with a great QB (I'm not ready to call him elite yet) that can lead a team. I would be surprised if you all don't get 2-3 chances at a Superbowl in the next 5 years.
    Nice words...the only thing with Kap is our team, without our defense would be below average. Kaps legs are amazing, his arm is amazing, but he doesnt have it between the ears. I will never call him great until he can figure it out. And idk if he can
    Quote Originally Posted by heimdog8 View Post
    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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