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    Player salaries are out of control!!!!

    That's the cry that's heard quite often.

    However, according to Jonah Keri
    Players got 62% of revenue in '03. Now, 42%.
    That's the part of the equation that most people seem to be missing.

    Yeah, $30 million a year is a mind-numbing number. But it's a very small part of the entire major league pie.

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    Athletes are a part of the entertainment industry. People in essential industries we could't live without make less. That's why people say their overpaid. The reasoning behind is that the entertainment industry and particularly the sporting sector simply make amounts of money that isn't proportional to the value they provide to society. Like you pointed out, players are probably underpaid in the context of their industry but if you look at it on a larger scale they make a lot more than people who provide more crucial services.


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    based on economics they're underpaid.
    this is the world we live in

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    Don't forget that some actors get $30M/movie...what brings more money a year worth of a famous player(merchandising, performance, fans buying tickets to watch him,...etc) or the amounts of tickets actor X may bring to the movies?

    A lot of people should ask themselves that question when they think that athletes are overpaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiNYC View Post
    Don't forget that some actors get $30M/movie...what brings more money a year worth of a famous player(merchandising, performance, fans buying tickets to watch him,...etc) or the amounts of tickets actor X may bring to the movies?

    A lot of people should ask themselves that question when they think that athletes are overpaid.
    Especial baseball players, 162 games a year man what a burnout that must be (seriously not sarcasm)

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    I tend to not care what other people get paid....


    And I certainly see no reason why players shouldn't get paid a great deal....in fact, I see a number of reasons why they should be paid much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    That's the cry that's heard quite often.

    However, according to Jonah Keri

    That's the part of the equation that most people seem to be missing.

    Yeah, $30 million a year is a mind-numbing number. But it's a very small part of the entire major league pie.
    All the people that say baseball players get paid more then the other big 3 never provide any evidence to support their claim.
    Everything I can see shows baseball players are last in salaries.
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    baseball players (and/or athletes) make a lot of money compared to more life important jobs. but of these jobs, how much money overall do they make?
    comparing baseball players to other non athletic (or even non celebrity) type jobs is apples and oranges. you can't really compare everything the same.

    I don't know how to exactly word this next part. I think baseball players do make too much money, but more so in comparison from what bigger market teams can offer compared to what smaller market teams can offer. it's just not smart business for a smaller market team to be able to pay 1 player one of the top salaries in the game and still expect to put a contending team on the field. so there isn't a level playing field across baseball in what teams can afford to pay.

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    Sports will always accumulate revenue at an increasing rate meaning 30 mil a year wont even be a big deal 5-10 years from now

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiNYC View Post
    Don't forget that some actors get $30M/movie...what brings more money a year worth of a famous player(merchandising, performance, fans buying tickets to watch him,...etc) or the amounts of tickets actor X may bring to the movies?

    A lot of people should ask themselves that question when they think that athletes are overpaid.
    The difference is that it is much easier to predict how well an actor will perform from movie to movie than a player will from season to season. And if an actor bombs in one movie for $30 million, he'd be hard pressed to find a producer to pay him the same money for his next project.

    On the other hand, Clay Kershaw could forget how to pitch tomorrow; he could develop Steve Blass or Rick Ankiel syndrome, and he's still guaranteed of collecting 30 mill for the next 7 seasons, even if he doesn't throw another strike for the rest of his career. Actors don't have those kinds of deals.

    As much as we like to equate ballplayers entertainers, the fact is we don't really care how entertaining they are; we care how well they play and how well they help our teams win ballgames. Those things aren't necessarily synonymous. Entertainers aren't competitors while they're entertaining. That's a pretty big difference.

    However, the OP makes a great point about the increasing size of the pie. Thirty million a season is probably no bigger a deal than $100,000 was back in the 40s and 50s, not in comparison to a team's overall revenues.

    Ultimately it comes down to us, the fans: Is it worth it to pay $30 for parking, $50 for a ticket, and $10 for a hot dog and so many more dollars for our cable bill so our team can spend $30 million a year for baseball players? Until fans stop paying, players can never be accused of being overpaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    The difference is that it is much easier to predict how well an actor will perform from movie to movie than a player will from season to season. And if an actor bombs in one movie for $30 million, he'd be hard pressed to find a producer to pay him the same money for his next project.

    On the other hand, Clay Kershaw could forget how to pitch tomorrow; he could develop Steve Blass or Rick Ankiel syndrome, and he's still guaranteed of collecting 30 mill for the next 7 seasons, even if he doesn't throw another strike for the rest of his career. Actors don't have those kinds of deals.

    As much as we like to equate ballplayers entertainers, the fact is we don't really care how entertaining they are; we care how well they play and how well they help our teams win ballgames. Those things aren't necessarily synonymous. Entertainers aren't competitors while they're entertaining. That's a pretty big difference.

    However, the OP makes a great point about the increasing size of the pie. Thirty million a season is probably no bigger a deal than $100,000 was back in the 40s and 50s, not in comparison to a team's overall revenues.

    Ultimately it comes down to us, the fans: Is it worth it to pay $30 for parking, $50 for a ticket, and $10 for a hot dog and so many more dollars for our cable bill so our team can spend $30 million a year for baseball players? Until fans stop paying, players can never be accused of being overpaid.
    That's true, but I remember when Stallone and Schwarzie were getting around $20-30M/year in the 90s while not doing so well in the box-office, they always made the top ten list of best paid actors in the business.

    It really depends, I don't know how it works now.
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    in 1995, MLB revenue was 1.4 billion, now it's pushing 9 billion

    That's why players are getting paid like they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    in 1995, MLB revenue was 1.4 billion, now it's pushing 9 billion

    That's why players are getting paid like they are.
    Assuming this is correct,

    Baseball revenue has increased (9/1.4) about 6 times since 1995.

    In 1995 the highest paid player was Cecil Fielder making $9.5 million*source. For current MLB salaries to have kept up with revenue then the highest paid player in 2013 should be making around $60 million a season. Obviously, that's not happening.

    It's not the players that are making too much. That money is going someplace else.

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    What hurts baseball players is that their is no floor. ( not talking about the league minimum and roster spots )
    There is nothing that says if revenues go up that players salaries must correlate. Just wishful thinking.
    Baseball players are at the mercy of the owners and just have to hope that the collusion is not to bad.

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