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    AM I the ONLY ONE????

    Something Magical Happened when Felton went down. The Knicks actually looked like a basketball team. The first time we played indiana Beno had along the lines of 19 points 4 assist and 8 rebounds. Now I am not saying he does this every game but he at least tries to make something Happen. We were fighting through the screens playing hard defense everyone was getting touches on the ball. We were more of an uptempo offense.

    I really do not understand Woodsons obsession with bad play. If you see something work don't try to fix it. It blows my mind how Beno will make one mistake and he pulls him out. But let Ray Ray make back to back mistakes and he keeps him in the game. And why is Jr. all of a sudden getting a pass again? THJR makes the most sense to come off the bench before Jr. I really hope the Knicks are smart in the off season and trade Jr. and felton. Mainly Felton he isn't a point gaurd he was good in college but this is the pro's

    Can we make a petition to have Woodson fired? and maybe we can get Felton to do some


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    I mentioned it before and I'll mention it again. Woodson has trouble managing talent and rotations. He does very well when he has less choices and sucks it up when he has too many choices. Team turns it around and starts playing good basketball with people injured. Injured players come back and the rotations get messed up and Woodson doesn't know what to do again.

    I tolerate Woodson, but I just don't see this team winning anything with him (I could be wrong). At one point the basketball was so bad that I boycotted watching the games because of Woodson and then when the new year started I turned the page and forgave everything, but Woodson is not helping this team win. Period.

    I mean last night's game was a prime example of Woody getting outcoached:

    Woody: Went through his regular preconceived substitution pattern and players without regards to matchups.

    Vogel: Made key substitutions after Knicks made substitutions. He made offensive adjustments to attack what Knicks were doing defensively in the first quarter and Woody never adjusted the defensive plan when Vogel exposed its weaknesses.

    I mean Jason Kidd, with his two best players having missed a lot of the games, has the Nets gelling and playing better basketball than Woodson. Kidd, who is a rookie coach and has no coaching experience and was playing up until last season.

    D'Antoni, who Woodson was supposedly so much better than is doing a far better coaching job than Woodson. The Lakers, who have been without Nash and Kobe for practically entire season and have had other players miss significant time and are short on talent, have a nearly identical record to the Knicks who are playing in the East!

    Think about that and let that sink in. D'Antoni has the Lakers playing as well as us while playing in the tougher conference.

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    Love these " am I the only one" threads.........

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    The Knicks PG play is terrible.

    You can argue for/against Beno/Felton depending on matchup, but it doesnt change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan4Years View Post
    I mentioned it before and I'll mention it again. Woodson has trouble managing talent and rotations. He does very well when he has less choices and sucks it up when he has too many choices. Team turns it around and starts playing good basketball with people injured. Injured players come back and the rotations get messed up and Woodson doesn't know what to do again.

    I tolerate Woodson, but I just don't see this team winning anything with him (I could be wrong). At one point the basketball was so bad that I boycotted watching the games because of Woodson and then when the new year started I turned the page and forgave everything, but Woodson is not helping this team win. Period.

    I mean last night's game was a prime example of Woody getting outcoached:

    Woody: Went through his regular preconceived substitution pattern and players without regards to matchups.

    Vogel: Made key substitutions after Knicks made substitutions. He made offensive adjustments to attack what Knicks were doing defensively in the first quarter and Woody never adjusted the defensive plan when Vogel exposed its weaknesses.

    I mean Jason Kidd, with his two best players having missed a lot of the games, has the Nets gelling and playing better basketball than Woodson. Kidd, who is a rookie coach and has no coaching experience and was playing up until last season.

    D'Antoni, who Woodson was supposedly so much better than is doing a far better coaching job than Woodson. The Lakers, who have been without Nash and Kobe for practically entire season and have had other players miss significant time and are short on talent, have a nearly identical record to the Knicks who are playing in the East!

    Think about that and let that sink in. D'Antoni has the Lakers playing as well as us while playing in the tougher conference.
    For the bold: its easy to toss stuff out like that without explaining what the hell you are talking about. You always bring up these "critiques" of Woodson and never once mentioned anything specific - just rehashing old cliches about his "adjustments" and "rotations" without ever saying anything at all.

    As for Kidd - didn't you just say Woody was doing great when there were injuries and he didn't have to play some big money guys for the sake of playing big money guys? When did this streak for the Nets start again?

    Coaches are always the scapegoat, but everytime you get outplayed isn't because you were out coached - every game every played is gonna have a loser and a winner, every L isn't on the coach and every W isn't because of the coach.

    I do agree that Woody has a tough time with our roster when were healthy. Too much depth for a crappy team. Too many guys making too much money that have to get PT.

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    Tim Hardaway and Martin and stat....out tonight. .

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    And before I get bashed for sticking up for Woodson - I'm not even sticking up for Woodson at this point - I am sticking up for coaches in the NBA in general and the mindless bashing and blame placement put on them after every L. I stuck up for D'Antoni the same way - and still think he is a damn good coach. I respect every NBA coach - they all know the game and they all are at the highest level of their profession. Put them in the right situation and you can win. Doc was a scrub coach until he wasn't, D'Antoni was a mastermind until he wasn't, Terry Stotts was a complete laughingstock until he wasn't.

    Coaches don't drive you to the finish line in the NBA. They get you in the car and steer you in the right direction - the players drive. Coaches don't cook the dinner - they set the table. If the food sucks its usually not a result of putting the napkins on the wrong side of the plate.

    I really just can't stand the notion that everytime we lose, if the coach made a miracle sub, called a miracle play, made a miracle adjustment it would have been a W. Most of the time when you get beat in this league, your gonna get beat no matter what the coach does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGacy is Music View Post
    Something Magical Happened when Felton went down. The Knicks actually looked like a basketball team. The first time we played indiana Beno had along the lines of 19 points 4 assist and 8 rebounds. Now I am not saying he does this every game but he at least tries to make something Happen. We were fighting through the screens playing hard defense everyone was getting touches on the ball. We were more of an uptempo offense.

    I really do not understand Woodsons obsession with bad play. If you see something work don't try to fix it. It blows my mind how Beno will make one mistake and he pulls him out. But let Ray Ray make back to back mistakes and he keeps him in the game. And why is Jr. all of a sudden getting a pass again? THJR makes the most sense to come off the bench before Jr. I really hope the Knicks are smart in the off season and trade Jr. and felton. Mainly Felton he isn't a point gaurd he was good in college but this is the pro's

    Can we make a petition to have Woodson fired? and maybe we can get Felton to do some


    Lets go KNICKS. I vote myself, D-leethal and Mr.Badman as the new Knicks coaching staff
    The same can be said for when Tyson went down...

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    Raymond Felton AKA Tubby Dribbles

    He's fat and dribbles around to much. Worst fast break pg maybe ever

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    Fans are calling for every coaches' head when the team doesn't win. Every player is scrutinized when the team doesn't win. NBA is a schizo dominated fan base. Even Spoelstra was questioned before they won or while they were on their way to a championship team. Heat fans were calling for Riley to come back. Take your medicine. You will be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan4Years View Post
    I mentioned it before and I'll mention it again. Woodson has trouble managing talent and rotations. He does very well when he has less choices and sucks it up when he has too many choices. Team turns it around and starts playing good basketball with people injured. Injured players come back and the rotations get messed up and Woodson doesn't know what to do again.

    I tolerate Woodson, but I just don't see this team winning anything with him (I could be wrong). At one point the basketball was so bad that I boycotted watching the games because of Woodson and then when the new year started I turned the page and forgave everything, but Woodson is not helping this team win. Period.

    I mean last night's game was a prime example of Woody getting outcoached:

    Woody: Went through his regular preconceived substitution pattern and players without regards to matchups.

    Vogel: Made key substitutions after Knicks made substitutions. He made offensive adjustments to attack what Knicks were doing defensively in the first quarter and Woody never adjusted the defensive plan when Vogel exposed its weaknesses.

    I mean Jason Kidd, with his two best players having missed a lot of the games, has the Nets gelling and playing better basketball than Woodson. Kidd, who is a rookie coach and has no coaching experience and was playing up until last season.

    D'Antoni, who Woodson was supposedly so much better than is doing a far better coaching job than Woodson. The Lakers, who have been without Nash and Kobe for practically entire season and have had other players miss significant time and are short on talent, have a nearly identical record to the Knicks who are playing in the East!

    Think about that and let that sink in. D'Antoni has the Lakers playing as well as us while playing in the tougher conference.
    WOW!!!! I didn't think about it until you said it. very good post
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    Knicks have no identity offensively or defense. After Melo there no legit scorer no 3pt specialist no low post scorer. Blame Amare/Tyson/Bargianni contracts. You have 70% of the cap tied to one dimensional average players. And horrible coaching and management/owner. Sorry i don't think 2015 is changing anything because all dolan cares about is filling the seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doorag View Post
    The same can be said for when Tyson went down...
    I guess...My whole things is this, If something worked the first time why wouldnt you stick with it. Chandler is a good help defensive Center. And I can't believe I am about to say this...But one on one Defense I like Bargs, He Shut down Dwight, Roy, and they are the best bigs in the game. I think its like the guy said about making adjustments, I don't believe in the Big money players with the post D-leethal said. Because how is Kenyon getting more playing time? Don't get me wrong I love K-Mart but he is only getting paid the vet. minimum. I have to blame the coach. Because just like how we wanted Marbury to play under Danphoney, who had the power to sit him and end his career the coach. When Nate didn't play 16 games it was the coach. So...yea the coach gets the blame here
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheetos185 View Post
    Knicks have no identity offensively or defense. After Melo there no legit scorer no 3pt specialist no low post scorer. Blame Amare/Tyson/Bargianni contracts. You have 70% of the cap tied to one dimensional average players. And horrible coaching and management/owner. Sorry i don't think 2015 is changing anything because all dolan cares about is filling the seats.
    I actually think Dolan cares about winning...he just micro manages too much and can't seem to get out of his own way. Shoulda probably kept Donnie WAlsh...I don't think he would have amnestied billups to get Chandler...That move right there made us what we are right now...yes chandler is very good when healthy but his health has become an increasing concern, he doesn't mesh with Stat, and left us with Toney douglas as our starting pg in the lock out season - in addition that move took away the amnesty we could have used for stat - at the end of the lockout year we could have re-signed billups on the cheap and made a run at chris paul because we would have had the money - And probably filled out the rest of the team.

    PG is the most important position in the league...they set up the offense and the defense - could have easily filled tyson's production offensively and somewhat defensively - a PG of Chris paul's calibler is 1 in 10000
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    Quote Originally Posted by randallk34 View Post
    Raymond Felton AKA Tubby Dribbles

    He's fat and dribbles around to much. Worst fast break pg maybe ever
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