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    Which QB's.....

    ....that are considered bust's or have had less than stellar careers could have turned out differently if they ended up in a better situation/team? Ie the David Carr's of the world.

    I always wonder if there are QB's that are considered busts that could of possibly had great careers if they ended up on a different team, better coaches, systems that were more suited to their strengths. What are your thoughts?




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    Well besides any QB on the 49'rs or Seattle right now would be better but as you mention it and its poignant to Charger fans right now;

    Entering the league as a third-round pick of the Buffalo Bills in 1985, Reich played a total of 14 seasons. His first 10 were spent backing up Jim Kelly for one of the most successful stints in Bills history. He then moved to Carolina for a season, then spent a year with the New York Jets before finishing his career and retiring after two seasons with the Detroit Lions.

    Reich is perhaps best known for two incredible comebacks. His first came in college as a senior with Maryland when he rallied the Terrapins to a 42-40 win over the University of Miami after his team trailed 31-0 for what was then the biggest comeback in collegiate football. Then, in 1992, he started a Wild Card game against the Houston Oilers and orchestrated the largest comeback in NFL history. Down 35-3 in the third quarter, Reich marched the Bills all the way back for a 41-38 victory.

    He'd be one...

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    david carr is the best answer. he got absoltuelyt murdered behind that awful o-line
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    I'll give a newer one. Mark Sanchez. Two division championship games tell you something and no it wasn't that the rest of the team was great.

    He was anointed starter from day 1, never challenged by competition or risk of losing starter status. His mental state weakened and weakened until he became a living joke within the NFL.

    Horrible set of circumstances around bringing him up from collegiate level. Pete Carroll was right when he said Sanchez wasn't ready for the NFL.

    BTW...he'll be starting for someone's team sooner than you might think...

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    Here's a couple that with the right change in system made it.

    Alex Smith...

    Rich Gannon (The Cannon)...went to Raiders and under Gruden, a QB friendly coach, he went to the Super Bowl...

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    OK...another weird one...

    Trent Dilfer had high expectations when coming out of college. Tampa Bay sucked for ages, but when he went to the Ravens he won a Super Bowl. Not a great QB...but smart and when given the chance, he made the most of it...

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    See: Archie Manning

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    Blaine gabbert if he had started on the bench instead of the wolves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dem Phils!!!:27802499
    OK...another weird one...

    Trent Dilfer had high expectations when coming out of college. Tampa Bay sucked for ages, but when he went to the Ravens he won a Super Bowl. Not a great QB...but smart and when given the chance, he made the most of it...
    No..he was awful and made the least of it. More ints than tds and in the super bowl year? An impressive 12 tds and 11 ints. God awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    No..he was awful and made the least of it. More ints than tds and in the super bowl year? An impressive 12 tds and 11 ints. God awful.
    Exactly, People seem to forget how much they ran the ball back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dem Phils!!! View Post
    I'll give a newer one. Mark Sanchez. Two division championship games tell you something and no it wasn't that the rest of the team was great.

    He was anointed starter from day 1, never challenged by competition or risk of losing starter status. His mental state weakened and weakened until he became a living joke within the NFL.

    Horrible set of circumstances around bringing him up from collegiate level. Pete Carroll was right when he said Sanchez wasn't ready for the NFL.

    BTW...he'll be starting for someone's team sooner than you might think...
    Agree with this 100%. Rex doesn't understand how to develop a young QB and Brian Schottenheimer is a dumbass. The best way to develop a QB is to put him in situations where he can succeed throwing the ball, not to put him in situations where the team can win despite him playing.

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    David Carr, who knows?

    Dilfer and Sanchez??? Bwaaahahahaha.

    Two of the worst QB's to ever grace, for lack of a better word, the gridiron.

    Other than Sanchez I can't remember the last time a QB consistently ranked in the bottom of nearly every passing stat, EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF HIS CAREER.

    And watching him on TV made me want to stick a pencil in my eye.

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    I think if Tebow wasn't a first round pick and was placed on the bench for a few years and went through the training he has been going through over the past year, he would be a starter right now for some team.

    Mark Sanchez is a good one as others have mentioned.

    David Carr is one that first came to mind. He got thrown to the wolves day 1 playing behind arguably the worst OL in NFL history. I believe he still holds the record for most sacks.

    Vince Young is another intriguing one. He got thrown to the wolves, had some success early that might have went to his head. Had a great skill set but seems like he is dumber than box of rocks.

    Alex Smith is another one. Got thrown to the wolves, went through different coaches and coordinators early in his career and people had high expectations of him seeing how he was the #1 overall pick.




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    A little different spin...

    Hall of Fame QB Len Dawson played five seasons in the NFL (Pitt & Clev) as a back up who rarely played. He was actually out of football when the AFL showed up in 1960, it's safe to say that saved his pro football career.
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    All great mentions so far. David Carr is the obvious one. Gobs of arm talent. Just a bad situation.
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