There's no reasoning with these people D. I mean there's dudes on here who were literally saying Shumpert could be the next Wade.
Neither they nor arguments are grounded in reality. In their world Shumpert can become the next MJ because precedence means nothing. The way he has actually played until now, what the scouts said in college means nothing, the fact that this dude has had three knee surgeries means nothing. The only thing Shumpert has done well is rebound. He is extremely inefficient, easily one of the worst finishers in the league (I've never seen a player brick so many point blank layups and dunks), only a good one v one defender and he isn't even good at defending quick players, has awful court vision and is a poor passer, as you pointed he is completely lost with the ball in his hands usually he just dribbles aimlessly for like ten seconds. This guy hasn't even been playing at an average level but somehow he has Wade potential puuuulease. Potential is not based on unfounded delusions where ever player has the potential to become a hall of famer, its based on things the player has actually shown he can do, on precedent.